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Post by apankow on Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:40 pm

Hi our names are Allison and Annie and we have three adorable baby girl bunnies (Don't let their names confuse you, they are all girls Smile
Wendy - dwarf bunny, Smee- holland lop, Peter-jersey Wholy

Once I figure out how to post pics, I will.


Question: Both Smee and Wendy are extremely sociable bunnies. They run right up to us and hop into our laps. But Peter is more introverted. We were wondering whether it is best to give her space, and let her be her own bunny. Or whether it's better to hold her and pick her up even when she runs away (which happens all the time), in an effort to increase her social skills? Any feedback or help ya'll have would be much appreciated!

Thanks so much! Hope everyone's hoppers are happy and healthy!

Annie and Allison


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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by cheryl'n'bruce'flo on Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:56 pm

Hello Wave and welcome to the forum.

I have a somewhat frosty 5 year old rex cross who also doesn't like handling or even being touched. I have taken the route of letting her get on with life unimpeded by me. I have had her since she was a dot and she has always been this way. I handle her to check her over occasionally and to do nail cutting but other than that I don't really. She is not frightened of me - she will full on mug me for a fenugreek treat, but she just does not want human contact for any other reason. If I am sat on the floor she comes and nudges me sometimes or will come and have a sniff, and very occasionally she will almost let me give her a nose rub (but in reality she headbuts my hand!). She is very vocal especially if you approach her. I strongly suspect that if I tried to handle her more that she would become quite agressive - mishandling is the no1 cause of aggression in rabbits. The trick is really to allow Peter to come to you and be in control of the level of contact you have. Remember that rabbits are prey animals and they do not need putting in their place in the same way as dogs, to do so will just make them more fearful. The way to encourage rabbits to be more secure is to provide lots of food and make sure they have a good experience of contact with you.

And don't worry about the name, you should meet Sparky and her extended family of unusually named rabbits. And Sparky herself used to be a boy!



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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by Sparky on Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:26 pm

Hello and welcome to you and your bunnies Wave

I agree with Cheryl, as usual Wink

Some bunnies are quite sociable with humans, and some just aren't. Part of the challenge and appeal of buns is that humans need to learn to interact with them rather than forcing the animal to behave in the way the humans want. Bear in mind that most times when bunnies are 'handled' it is by a predator and as such is a threatening and frightening experience. There are 12 of us, and some will happily approach our hu-parents and be petted, or climb all over them, and some of us want as little to do with them as possible.

My Daddy, Jack, was always wary of the humans as was his first wife-bun. But his new wife-bun is very sociable and Jack is learning that contact with the hu-parents can be nice too. He used to thump and run if he was approached but now he periscopes in the hope of a treat, and happily settles for nose-rubs and will put up with being stroked for as long as the humans are willing to do it Love

Having said that, a pocket full of Fenugreek Crunchies and banana chips can win most buns round, at least temporarily. We are very food-motivated Embarassed Thumbs Up


cheryl'n'bruce'flo wrote:And don't worry about the name, you should meet Sparky and her extended family of unusually named rabbits.
You mean my sisters: Graham, Reggie, Ronnie and Poirot? Laughing

cheryl'n'bruce'flo wrote:And Sparky herself used to be a boy!
Embarassed Tried it, didn't like it Laughing

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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by KatieB on Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:26 pm

Hi There,

Welcome to HH!

I have a boy named Daisy! Laughing

I have never met two bunnies who have the same personality. Sometimes they are just buns who dont want to be picked up and are just happy being in bun company.

It is important that you can handle her as you will need to be able to do bum checks (for flystrike) and there may be times when medicine is required for example. However, if she is a bun that just doesnt like it, id keep it to a minimum. There is a danger if you force her to have cuddles that she doesnt want that she will become more frightened and withdrawn.

Let her come to you in her own time, buns love to do things in their own time. Some patience and love and she may surprise you - or she may just be a bun who is happy with the company of other buns and doesn't need lots of cuddles.

Any questions you have at all please let us know - we are all here to help and we have a wealth of experience here - from people who run rescues, to people who have lots of buns to people who have one house bun..... there is usually always someone about that can help.

Again - Welcome

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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by apankow on Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:42 pm

Thank you all for the feedback. It's really nice to know that just because little Peter isn't the cuddliest of bunnies, it doesn't mean she is unhappy with her life or parents. Just shy. Forcing her to get cuddles really didn't seem right, so I'm glad you all confirmed this for me.

Maybe one day she will be ready for a handle or two..i'll keep you updated! Smile

And thanks again everyone!

Ok, I have one more question: We are litter box training the buns. And they are doing quite well except for a few accidents. The only thing is they don't seem to be able to control their pills (poopies). Potty is ending up where it should; but we are still having trouble with the other. Any suggestions. Also, Smee is having more difficulty than the others at litterbox training. She's the only one having accidents at this point. Should I confine her to her cage for awhile until she gets the litterbox down more fully? I feel so bad about doing that because they usually run around altogether in the pen, and poor smee would be all alone in her cage. Sad bunny.

Any thoughts on how to encourage success, both for little smee, and all the bunnies with their dropping problems.

Thanks again for answering my other concern. Super, super helpful. :O)

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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by KatieB on Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:47 pm

Hiya
Its never a good idea to separate one of the bunnies off from the others unless its for medical reasons, especially with girls.

You see the bond between them is a very special and very fragile thing...A separation could break the bond and once broken, very difficult to rebuild.

If you are going to reduce space you will need to do it for all three of them.

Litter training is a tricky thing.

The best thing to do is this....

When a poo is done outside of the litter box, show bun the poo, put bun and poo into litter box and fuss the bun. Over and over again Smile

Like everything with buns patience is required.

What size litter tray do you have and what litter do you use?


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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by Sparky on Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:49 pm

How many litter trays do you have, how big are they, where are they, how often do you clean them out and what do you use for litter?

Buns are fastidiously clean and may refuse to use a dirty tray (that's dirty by our standards, not human ones).

Buns can be fussy about what they toilet on - I refused to use Megazorb but went on newspaper, so Humum put a layer of newspaper on top of Megazorb and gradually used less newspaper until I was going on the Megazorb.

Do you put some hay in the litter trays? Buns like to nom hay when they toilet.

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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by Tuckerbunnies on Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:53 pm

Hi Welcome to HH Wave

I agree with Katieb it is important that you handle them so they can be checked for flystrike and for giving them medicines. We have one at the moment who has been abused and will not let you handle him at all and we are spending hours just sat in his play pen with him giving him treats off a very still hand as he hates hands but we will continue to do it as long as it takes as we will need to handle him in the future. We have a few that don't like being picked up but they have no choice I'm afraid.

Can't wait to see pictures of your girls Very Happy

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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by KatieB on Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:54 pm

Oh yes I forgot about that......Layer of hay on top is very important....they do like to eat and do their business at the same time.....(delightful)


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Re: New to the Bunny Forum

Post by apankow on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:35 am

I have two litter boxes at the moment, one cat litterbox made for a large cat, and one cage v-shaped litterbox for bunnies that fits in the cage. I use carefresh litter, and cover the top of it with hay. I clean the pans out once a day.

Good to know about separation. Won't be trying that then.

I think it might just come down to proper training, then. Because they are just fine with going potty in their boxes for the most part. It's the pills that are EVERYWHERE - not just one corner, they drop them as they please. So It sounds like I just need to sit with them, watch them closely, relocate their poop to the litterbox when they do have an accident and then praise praise praise.

Thanks again for everyone's responses!

Annie

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