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Post by c.bolduan Wed May 21, 2014 3:40 pm

Hi folks,
I'm very upset, when I came into the warren to feed lunch and take them out I found Coffee subdued sitting in the corner not greeting me at all!Shocked 
So got Bertie and Bubbles out first and went back to get him. When I picked him up he felt quite floppy and I saw he was bleeding from his mouth, his tounge hang out darkly discoloured and very swollen.Shocked pale 
Rushed him to the vet straight away.
He is having surgery whilst I write this post.
Vet opinion is that he got a cut his tounge some how on a sharp object. A bite seems unlikely with his incisors missing.
It looks like it has happened this morning and parts of the tounge seem necrotic and may have to be removed No No No 
When back home I checked the cage and run. The only thing I found as a possible cause is the holder for the water bottle.
Please hoppers send vibes for that lovely fella and me. Thanks

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Post by Sixer Wed May 21, 2014 4:01 pm

Oh poor Coffee - loads of vibes being sent his way xxx
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Post by FluffSlave Wed May 21, 2014 4:04 pm

Oh my goodness - poor Coffee! Sad

Sending him lots of vibes. Please keep us posted Hugs
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Post by gentl Wed May 21, 2014 4:30 pm

Mega vibes and prayers for the gorgeous Coffee! They do know how to worry us don't they. Tongues regenerate quite readily. I had a quarter size piece excised from mine and it regenerated in several months.

I know you are concerned about finding what caused the injury. Sending vibes for you to find that readily and remedy the situation.
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Post by jolovesbunnies Wed May 21, 2014 5:31 pm

Lots of hugs on their way and prayers being said love.

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Post by marleyNfriends Wed May 21, 2014 6:34 pm

Tons of vibes for poor Coffee!! How awful, I hope they dont have to move parts of his tongue, and whatever happens, he makes a speedy recovery.
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Post by Tuckerbunnies Wed May 21, 2014 6:52 pm

Oh no this is awful, poor boy  Sad 

Sending him lots and lots of 'quick healing' Vibes xxxx  Hugs Hugs 

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Post by c.bolduan Wed May 21, 2014 8:11 pm

Update from this evening
Sucessful surgery they have stitched his tounge all around and he looks quite ridiculous as it is poking out of his mouth.
It was all well blood suplied and they had no need to remove any parts -god thanks!
He had a lot of drugs, painrelief, gut stimulant and antibiotic and we will go for a check up tomorrow morning.
Will need encouragement to eat as tounge is very swollen,and he needs syringe feed. But as good as he is he took this straight from me and had half a syringe of food and one of water already. Tried to give him the food from a spoon and he had a few licks of that too. Now waiting for poo actions and off for another feeding round!
Thanks for all vibes and well wishes.  Wave Love Hugs Thumbs Up Happy Dance 

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Post by FluffSlave Thu May 22, 2014 9:10 am

I'm glad the surgery went well and that he is with you, as he will receive the best post-op care possible there Very Happy Hugs

Sending top up vibes for a speedy healing xxx
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Post by Tuckerbunnies Thu May 22, 2014 11:59 am

Glad everything went ok and didn't lose any of his tongue  

Topping up the healing Vibes for him xxxx

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Post by Sixer Thu May 22, 2014 12:35 pm

Loads of extra healing vibes coming your way xx
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Post by KatieB Thu May 22, 2014 1:08 pm

Oh my goodness! I have only just seen this! How awful the poor little guy!

I really hope he is okay x x
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Post by gentl Fri May 23, 2014 1:12 am

Sounds like they did a great job on his tongue! I'm so glad he is back home with you. I know he'll have the best of care with you taking care of him. It's wonderful that he is taking his food from the syringe so readily. Sending mega vibes for a total and quick recovery. Hugs for you too!
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Post by Thumper2001 Fri May 23, 2014 10:00 am

How is Coffee doing?
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Post by FluffSlave Fri May 23, 2014 10:54 am

Also wondering how Coffee is?

Sending lots of vibes his and your way Hugs
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Post by KatieB Fri May 23, 2014 1:11 pm

Hope the little chap is ok bless him xx
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Post by BugsBunny Fri May 23, 2014 2:58 pm

oh the poor angel, so sorry he has gone through this and mega mega vibes comeing his way and yours hun.

How is he today hu?

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Post by c.bolduan Fri May 23, 2014 4:25 pm

Hi lovely folks!
Sorry for not responding earlier but have been rather busy with the boy.
He is not doing so grant today.
I had to go to work yesterday and had an check appointment at the vet for11am. I left him at the surgery and picked him up after work.
Maybe this wasn't wise but I couldn't cancel the shift. Managed to cancel everything from today until Tuesday when he is due for a check again. Sad  No 
It looks like the tip of his tounge is getting black, the rest is well perfumed and looks nicely pink.
He is on metacam and baytril and because he was not happy with the syringe feeding I have decided to give him the baytril as injections. He freaks each time when anything and especially the syringe touches his mouth. So I thought I don't want to make it worse, if this is possible, by giving hom the baytril oral and stress him out even more.
He is getting frustrated because he wants to pick the food up and can't manage when it's on the floor or in a bowl. If I give it from a spoon to him he can take small amounts. I wonder whether it has to do with the angle and which movements he can make with his tounge.
He is pooing but they are smaller than usual and earlier on he got so stressed the he weed on me and then had a very soft poo in the litter tray.
All vibes welcome!

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Post by FluffSlave Fri May 23, 2014 5:40 pm

Oh, poor Coffee Sad

I'm sending loads and loads of 'calming vibes' his way, and hugs for you as it must be stressful to see him worked up like that Hugs

Don't you just wish that we could explain we are trying to help them... Sad
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Post by c.bolduan Fri May 23, 2014 6:53 pm

FluffSlave wrote:Oh, poor Coffee Sad

I'm sending loads and loads of 'calming vibes' his way, and hugs for you as it must be stressful to see him worked up like that Hugs

Don't you just wish that we could explain we are trying to help them... Sad

Yes, you are right I even told him this earlier. Just to find a collage or university that teaches those language skills I haven't found yet  Hissy 
He goes frantic and arches him self back and it looks most horrible. If someone would see it and not know the details they would do me for cruelty and I'm surely not. I love the boy dearly and if he continues to react this way I consider to see the vet tomorrow. I can't leave him without food and fluid and feel guilty for doing this, sorry I don't moan usually but this brings me to tears. Sad  Crying or Very sad  Shocked 
Any suggestions hoppers???

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Post by gentl Fri May 23, 2014 7:20 pm

Sorry you are having problems with Coffee. He seems such a gentle bun. I wish I had some suggestions to help. I DO have mega get well vibes and they are on their way to you!
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Post by jolovesbunnies Fri May 23, 2014 7:48 pm

I am sending all the healing vibes I can muster my darling. I am so sorry that you are both having such a rotten time at the moment and am sending lots of love. Please keep us updated.

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Post by c.bolduan Sat May 24, 2014 3:49 pm

Another update!
Good:
He is eating-small amount of veg grated and pellets moistened with warm water, I mixed the selective with some oxbow as it has more fibre and prebiotic.
Hence I avoid to syringe feed him and he only has to take the metacam once a day.
He is pooing although they are tiny ones and small amounts.
Not so good:
He has very soft ceotophobes and finds it difficult to keep bottom clean and is fighting me when I want to assist.
He doesn't seem to drink much!
Thought I give him a little time with Bubbles and he went for her big style. I guess he is aggressive because he feels poorly but this may mean that the bonding attempts are back to scratch. I will wait until he is better and back to normal and re introduce than. Bubbles is shell shocked,bless her!
Thanks for all the vibes sent and to Tuckerbunnies for the brilliant advice. Hugs Hugs Hugs 

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Post by jolovesbunnies Sat May 24, 2014 6:44 pm

Top up vibes are ontheir way love and a really big cuddle for you. Thank you for keeping us updated.

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Post by Sparky Sat May 24, 2014 8:40 pm

Oh gosh, poor Coffee and poor you  Shocked 

He probably ought to be on the metacam twice a day - what dose is he getting and is it the dog one? Many vets don't prescribe enough pain relief for rabbits.

He is probably not drinking much because his food is being moistened, so he is getting adequate hydration from that.

Poos being off is probably because of low fibre intake and perhaps a bit of stress / discomfort. I'm not sure what form fibreplex is - is it a paste, anyone? I wonder if that is worth trying to get his fibre intake up.

I would keep him quiet and away from the other buns until he is feeling a lot better.

Lots of vibes for Coffee  Hugs Hugs Hugs and some  Hugs Hugs Hugs for you.
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