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Post by woodwench Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:29 pm

Late on yesterday evening I thought Henry wasn't quite himself again, quieter than normal and not following his usual routine.
This morning he is sneezing out runny white stuff and wiping his nose a lot.
I've phoned the vet for advice and he said that antibiotic he is one is right for the infection, which is a bacterial infection and not something that is going to keep recurring.
I was reluctant to take him into the surgery and because the vet knew the problem and felt he was on the right meds he said he felt it best not to stress him, to keep an eye on him and see how he was on Monday (of course he said not to hesitate to get him in if he got worse).
Now... as anyone had experience of this kind of thing?
Bacterial infection up one nostril that showed no external discharge, just an occasional sneeze, no wet nose/paws. Using Septrim antibiotic which is recommended for this.
Could it be that the infection gunge is now thinning  and clearing from his nose?


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Post by gemma997 Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:12 pm

Some bacterial infections can cause abcesses, could that be what is maybe happening up Henry's nose? could explain why he sneezing white gunk out now????
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Post by c.bolduan Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:31 pm

He Woodwench, if it is snuffles or an bacterial infection it might make sense to send a swab to path lab.
I would recommend to consider nebulising with f10. I got plenty here and could send you some.
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Post by woodwench Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:41 pm

We sent a swab to be tested at lab. The answer came yesterday morning... Bacterial infection.
He's been doing really well since shaking off the GA on Sunday evening. He's eating okay today and at the moment is lying half on his side, quite relaxed but about every twenty minutes or so he huffs. He is in a bit of a grump with me as well, sick of me checking him out.
I've had the nebuliser running (with F10) earlier this afternoon for about twenty minutes. He hates the noise.
No sure about abscess, wouldn't that keep the gunk contained?
His breathing is quiet, and he's flat out sleeping now.
I was late getting the antibiotics down him today because he refused to take them in the bite size shredded wheats and I finally got them down him on toast. He hates the smell of Septrim.
Thanks for the offer Claudia, just opened a new bottle today.


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Post by c.bolduan Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:43 pm

Remind me did the vet do an X ray of skull and jaws?

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Post by woodwench Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:47 pm

Not this time round. Last X-ray was New Years Eve '14.
He had tiny spurs done this time and tear ducts flushed but ducts were fine.
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Post by c.bolduan Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:48 pm

Are you giving him metacam? Not only as pain relief but more as an anti inflammatory.

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Post by woodwench Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:02 pm

The bacteria found was PFEUDOMONAD.
just cahtted with his vet and he wants to see how he goes over the weekend then if he's no better see him on Mon. and maybe change his antibiotic.
He's on Loxicom ... same diff as Metacam.
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Post by gemma997 Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:05 pm

I was thinking maybe it had burst,

Hope he gets better soon and it his body just getting rid off it
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Post by c.bolduan Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:07 pm

Ok. He may need a differen antibiotic than. Hop he perks up. Not so much to steal your toast though. Lol

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Post by woodwench Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:26 pm

Just had a look at sites concerning this bug... Pfeudomonad ... not very reassuring.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/2008/12/Pseudomonas-respiratory-infection.htm
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Post by KatieB Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:57 pm

Fingers crossed your vet can come up with the right abx for the job hun x sending snuggles xx
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Post by Sixer Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:48 pm

Fingers crossed from me too xx
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Post by gemma997 Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:13 pm

Fingers crossed and paws crossed from us as well
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Post by jolovesbunnies Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:13 pm

Everything crossed here too honey and lots of love on its way.

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Post by woodwench Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:38 pm

Thanks for the support, everyone.
He seems quite bright now after an afternoon spent looking very depressed and giving the odd snuffly snort. He's eating okay in fact he's just had a session in his hay box.
I just hate this uncertainty and wish I could hear how others have coped, what drugs they used etc.
He's my boy, and I'm worried.
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Post by gemma997 Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:25 pm

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Post by woodwench Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:33 pm

He's not too good this afternoon. I shall nebulise him in a minute or two. He has not been nebulised in his travel box before and I'm worried how stressed he will be as he hates the noise of it.
I've talked, via email, with Ros Lamb of the RWAF about this bacteria and what it does. She had a bun with it in its nose and it took a year to beat it.
I'm very worried how I shall cope with Henry if I have my own winter troubles. The future looks very grim.
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:56 pm

Have you read the medirabbit page Dee?http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Respiratory/Bacterial/URI.htm

They give specific antibiotics for different types of infection.

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Post by KatieB Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:07 pm

Whatever gets thrown at you Dee, you and Henry can get through it together, I just know you can. x
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Post by woodwench Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:34 pm

Thanks.
I had a go at nebulising him for real earlier. I've just had the thing running in the room before and he hated it. But I got him in his travel box this evening and had a go, just ten minutes so as not to stress him. He was fine, less bothered by the nebuliser noise than he's out of his box... though not impressed with me.
I'm so new to this nebulising game. I've never had to do it before and I'm not even sure about what are probably obvious things.... like, why does F10 have to tops to the bottle, and how do you get the formula out in the correct measurement? I pierced a hole in the cardboard cap and drew off 1.5 to mix with distilled water.... Not the best idea and probably about as daft as you can get. I'm just not good at this kind of thing, I'm more into behavioural and psychological things that practical nursing.
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Post by Thumper2001 Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:01 pm

Poor Henry Sad And poor you!

I would be totally out of my depth here so I'm therefore no use to you at all Sad
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Post by jolovesbunnies Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:26 pm

Me neither hun but I am sending lots of love.

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Post by gemma997 Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:58 am

Hugs to you and Henry
I wouldn't have a clue what to do

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Post by woodwench Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:48 pm

Thanks to Ros at the RWAF I am now nebulising Henry.
It really is quite easy once you put the panic back in the drawer.
I just need to keep him eating, he seems to need reminding about food (very unHenry) and he sleeps a lot but there have been some alert times, even a dash around with a binky.
I don't know what to make of him, depressed/sleepy and not into his dinner, then once or twice a day he wakes up and shows some interest, even doing the binky.
This is not good for my stress levels!
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