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Post by woodwench on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:49 am

Well I think it's a pooping question, it might be a peeing question as Henry seems to do both on the same visit!

First: he is eating okay. Drinking okay (maybe a tad more but then he is in a warm room). His poops look fine and so does his pee.

This is what I'm not sure about.
He goes in his tray and after positioning himself he will lower his head, half close his eyes and it's then he looks like he's not really happy. He straightens up and flicks his front paws several times. Then he turns round and inspects what he's done. He may scratch at it.

This is all recent and not like the way he would sit in his tray chomping hay as he "went".

Because he is producing the usual amount of poops and because they are good ones; and because his pee looks fine and is in its normal quantities and both smell normal, I can't decide if there's a problem or not. After his muscle probs (and remembering his fall off the foot stool an couple of weeks ago) I do wonder if he aggravated that old injury and maybe even added to it. He is rather sleepy but he moves about okay, no stiffness, he hops quite freely.
He is still moulting round his lower rump/scut area but his poops show no sign of fur in his tummy.

Can anyone throw any light on his changed litter tray behaviour?
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Post by jolovesbunnies on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:10 pm

Sorry love, this is a new one to me but he sounds fine in himself.  I hope one of our friends on here will be able to shed some light on it for you.  Do keep us informed.

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Post by woodwench on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:20 pm

I'm probably being neurotic and after all his problems I am probably seeing things that are perfectly normal and exaggerating them.
He is eating, drinking okay and seems to hop around okay though he does stretch a lot ... he also sleeps a lot.
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Post by iiisecondcreep on Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:47 am

sounds like he could be straining? maybe a uti or something?
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Post by jolovesbunnies on Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:36 pm

How is he today love?

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Post by woodwench on Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:12 pm

Certain it's not a uti. His pee is plentiful/normal and there's nothing untoward about its appearance.
He is producing big poos. I'm going to cut back on the amount of Pro-Fibre I give him daily. He is tucking into hay with relish and cleaning up his nuggets but he's off his greens, only eating herbs. So maybe he is filling up with plenty of good fibre that makes his poops bigger which, with his poorly muscles, he may find needs more ... er, shifting! It seems to be the pooping that gets the reactions and he's fine after he's done. Big poops may take more passing with a sore back.
I've cut the Pro-Fibre intake in half today so should see if there's a difference tomorrow. He did a happy binky when he'd finished a poo earlier this evening and, as I've said he's eating/drinking fine.
I'm also wondering if Baytril makes buns sleepy?
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Post by KatieB on Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:04 pm

Hmmm tricky one - could this be moult related? Ive had two buns in stasis in a week - John said they have seen a fair few come through them in the last week too.


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Post by woodwench on Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:34 pm

He's eating like a horse, even his greens after a bought him sweetheart cabbage instead of spring greens today. (I think he thinks that sweetheart cabbage is named after him... his mummy's little sweetheart!) His pee is clear and plentiful and his poops big and in abundance. He's bright and done a few small binkies last night and today.
I'm thinking it's his muscles after falling off the foot stool... I think he put himself back into the pain zone again when he did that. He seems to be more relaxed again now.... like the pain is eased.
He's following much the same pattern as before Christmas. I thought it would take a long time to heal properly especially when he over does things the moment he starts to fell okay.
His moult is done (I THINK) at least there aren't any ghost rabbits on the carpet/rugs and no floating angels getting up my nose.
I expect I'm being a neurotic mum as well.
Oh.... he's definitely my last rabbit. I'm too old to take the stress and worry.
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Post by jolovesbunnies on Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:25 pm

I am so pleased he enjoyed hs sweetheart cabbage and I love the sweetheart bit being for his little tum.  Top up healing and loving vbes are on their way hun

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Post by gemma997 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:36 am

Glad he feeling better woodwench

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Post by woodwench on Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:25 pm

Yes, he's feeling better which is in itself a worry. He's done a few binkies today... the spontaneous "boink" type and a couple of times he's launched himself out of his litter tray like a damned kangaroo.... how long before he's all hang-dog with sore muscles again?
I'm sure it's sore muscles that affect him pooping and yesterday and today as well as binkying he's looked more comfortable on his tray.
How the Devil can I calm him down and stop these sudden bursts of energy? They really are spontaneous, nine times out of ten they make me jump, and they are no good for his recovery.
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Post by jolovesbunnies on Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:05 pm

I wish I had an answer for you love, it s a real problem.  Short of sedating him a little bit but that is no good long term.  What has the vet said?

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Post by gemma997 on Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:44 am

Will pet remedy not relax him a wee bit never used it or heard of it until two weeks ago, so don't know.

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Post by woodwench on Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:32 am

I've got one of the plug ins. He's quite relaxed actually. It's just that when he's pain free and feeling himself again he ACTS like a fit, happy rabbit. That's when he finds out his injury isn't fully healed....
The vet says give him time. There's nothing else to do. Putting him in a cage again would only have him raging at the bars and that would not help anything. Plus restricting him too much will only lead to loss of muscle.... we just have to remove, or prohibit access, to anything he might leap off, skid on, fall off etc. etc..
It's like walking on egg shells.
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Post by jolovesbunnies on Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:47 pm

Lots of get well vibes on their way love, I think it is just a question of time now. Very Happy

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Post by woodwench on Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:55 pm

Yes, Jo, time and probably a long time too if he doesn't behave sensibly.
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Post by jolovesbunnies on Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:06 pm

Oh Woodwench love, I wish there were an solution Hugs

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Post by woodwench on Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:00 pm

Yes, I do believe it's that muscle problem that's upsetting him in his tray. I saw him do that funny back stretch they do when they have an uncomfortable back. I think falling off that stool put him back further than I thought. But He isn't suffering like he was when he had to be confined. He is generally relaxed and his appetite is good.
I've taken him off the Baytril for a few days to see if that helps... perhaps it makes him a bit constipated?
Anyone know if that's possible?
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Post by Thumper2001 on Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:38 pm

I don't know Hmmm

This seems such an ongoing battle for you. If only you could sit him down and tell him what he needs to do to recover fully!
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Post by jolovesbunnies on Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:46 pm

Sorry honey, I really wish I could help.

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Post by woodwench on Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:17 pm

I sometimes think we "feed off each other"..... He picks up on my worry and reacts to it in a negative manner which makes me even more worried which feeds his negativity.... and so on , and on, and on.... Being alone, just me and him 24/7 we are very one-to-one and empathic.
I may be just a tad neurotic.
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