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Vince the bunny
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[b]I have just opened up Rosie and Jim,s hutch so they have access to the run next to the crazy gang as soon as Jim came out Jazz went mad attacking Fizz chasing her round and they were realy fighting there is fizz fur all over the run and she is terified I have seperated them left fizz inside and Jazz outside but not quite sure what to do now
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Id keep them apart for a bit, This happened with Twink and jasper, think they just had a lovers tiff few hours away from each other should do them good. Take out the food toys etc and leave with essentials then add them slowly. Thats what I did and it worked. Prob fighting over the same carrot or somethin xx
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It's not uncommon, it's a terratorial thing, most likely. Have you done this before with no problems Rob?
I'd leave them to cool down, then take both of them out, and reintroduce them carefully, provide lots of food spread around, and lots of toys.
Hope Fizz is Ok
I'd leave them to cool down, then take both of them out, and reintroduce them carefully, provide lots of food spread around, and lots of toys.
Hope Fizz is Ok
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Sounds like referred aggression. I had this problem when bonding the trio and last year when dad brought a rabbit home and housed him next to Marley and Dolly.
I would do as the others have said and give them time to cool off before slowly reintroducing them. Give them plenty of hay and food around their setup. Is this the first time its happened? I would consider covering one side of the run in future, so they can all have run time, but so one group cant see the other. Hope you dont have any more trouble, its scary to see! xx
I would do as the others have said and give them time to cool off before slowly reintroducing them. Give them plenty of hay and food around their setup. Is this the first time its happened? I would consider covering one side of the run in future, so they can all have run time, but so one group cant see the other. Hope you dont have any more trouble, its scary to see! xx
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[b]This is the first time that Rosie and jim have been out into the run which is divided from jazz and fizz by a 75mm double mesh fence but its the way that Jazz has turned on Fizz they are sole mates
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I suspect Jazz was making sure his Mrs wasn't tempted by the new hot stuff next door, especially now he can get so close! I would hope after a while Jazz will realise that Jim cannot run off with Fizz into the sunset and all will settle down. Keep a close eye on daisy during this unsettled period as he could easily get hurt if caught in the middle.
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[b]Yes realy scarry and upsetting to think I may have upsett the bond of Jazz and Fizz
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[b]daisy is black and white just needs a whistle and he would like a refaree
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Ruffin wrote:[b]Yes realy scarry and upsetting to think I may have upsett the bond of Jazz and Fizz
Im sure if you could put something up so the 2 groups cant see eachother then things would settle down. Marley and Dolly were very much loved up, and when i saw them fighting, it wasnt nice at all. But they did settle down again within a matter of hours. As long as there are no single buns, then i would put something between them so they cant see eachother.
Do you plan on bonding the 2 groups?
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It could be a few things, as mentioned, but effectively, these two buns have entered Jazz & Fizz's space, and as Jazz can't get to them, he's thrown a territorial wobbly, and sadly, Fizz was the only one who was there.
Just because a pair are bonded doesn't mean that they won't act instinctively, and this would be normal behaviour in wild rabbits , so is normal behaviour in domestic rabbits too. Terratory is a big deal to buns, and shouldn't be treated lightly. I'm sure they'll be fine again, we all live and learn
Just because a pair are bonded doesn't mean that they won't act instinctively, and this would be normal behaviour in wild rabbits , so is normal behaviour in domestic rabbits too. Terratory is a big deal to buns, and shouldn't be treated lightly. I'm sure they'll be fine again, we all live and learn
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[b]I have just put Jazz back into the hut with Fizz and plenty of treats they seemed fine but i will keep an eye on them have also locked them in at the moment bunnnnsssss
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I hope it was just a one off spat
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God they are complicated little creatures arnt they!
Dogs and Cats - easy to understand - Buns, well thats another story altogether.
I hope that he gets over himself, apologises to his wife and they are snuggled up together again. x
Dogs and Cats - easy to understand - Buns, well thats another story altogether.
I hope that he gets over himself, apologises to his wife and they are snuggled up together again. x
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oh dear, ive never had any experience of bonded buns, but i hope it was just a one off spat and they are fine again soon!!
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I had the same thing with my Trio when I had Rosie and Hutch. When Vince saw either one of them, he would attack Faline and Hazel. I'd have to shout at him to get him to stop. I learned it was referred agression, he couldn't get to the two strange buns, so he took it out on his two girls.
I found covering the runs so they couldn't see each other worked. As long as Vince couldn't see Rosie & Hutch, all was ok.
It didn't affect Vince's bond with his girls, and I was able to bond Vince to Rosie, and to a lesser degree, Hutch, but unfortunately the bond was unstable so it never worked in the long term.
I found covering the runs so they couldn't see each other worked. As long as Vince couldn't see Rosie & Hutch, all was ok.
It didn't affect Vince's bond with his girls, and I was able to bond Vince to Rosie, and to a lesser degree, Hutch, but unfortunately the bond was unstable so it never worked in the long term.
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[b]I have just been out to feed them and they are ok together I am going to get some plywood on one side of the run partition tomorrow I have also comandeered a bit more of Anns garden to extend the run all I have to do now is tell her
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[b]Just been out again to turn out there hutch lights and Jazz was sat on the shelf in front of the interconnecting window giving Fizz a realy good grooming as if he was showing Jim Fizz is my girl dont try anything funny bless them
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Oh bless him - poor misguided boy.
Cant he see that Jim has a lovely of his own!
Good luck with the land grab! ha ha
Cant he see that Jim has a lovely of his own!
Good luck with the land grab! ha ha
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This happened to my pair, Gloria and Wolfie when Felix appeared and when a wildie was in the garden. As soon as another rabbit was in the garden, Wolfie got really anxious and aggressive. He had nobody else to attack, so poor Globags got it! Referred aggression is really scary because often it just appears out of nowhere!
Once they get used to the smells of other rabbits and stop seeing them as competition, hopefully they will all settle down.
Once they get used to the smells of other rabbits and stop seeing them as competition, hopefully they will all settle down.
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Bruce has never been threatened by the presence of Elvis next door. Flo is absolutely fascinated by him as she can only smell him through the fence - she cannot see him - and spends ages running up and down the fence and next door tell me he does the same on the other side. But Bruce just carries on grazing, or sunbathing or sleeping. He is very secure in his own manhood!
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I suppose some buns are more laid back than others. My wee man was obviously a bit of a worrier! I had a friend's buns to stay and he was the same with them too. When Felix was housed within sight of the main run, Wolfie patrolled up and down every day and every morning went straight over the the corner nearest and just stared at him. If Gloria showed any interest, she would get a nip on the bum to dissuade her!
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I'm interested in how this has happened, and the referred aggressioin a couple of you have mentioned. I'm gonna talk to Anne and see if we can get more of an insight into it
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[b]I have put a screen up between them now so as they cant see each other at all. Everything was going reasonably well then Fizz went up to the dividing wall put her head allmost to the ground with bum and tail in the air (not a pretty sight the little slapper) then Jazz went totaly wild again. I have noticed that Rosie was trying to dig down under the dividing fence right where Fizz had been so back to drawing board for now I am letting Rosie and Jim have a play for an hour then I will put them away somehow and let the crazy gang out again
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Ohh dear! Bless you, its frustrating at times! Hope they settle down soon! x
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[b]Yes very frustrating but I wont give up on the little swines
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