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Post by fiver Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:24 pm

bluebell as you know seems to like me and is getting a little relaxed,
i know she does not like me to pick her up and try not to but she does nudge her nose at my hand and put her head down and i stroke her head.
when i cleaned her cage yesterday she refused to come out so i just cleared around her but near the end she started boxing the scoop and grabbing it with her teeth trying to push it out so i stopped and gigled and said oh your playing i tried to calm her and coax her out of the way but no she would not move, idon't like to pick her up from inside as it's her safe place but in the end had to pick her up so when i did i just spoke to her saying it's ok gave her a little stroke on her head and put her on the floor,
she hopped off quite happy and i finished her cage,
she eventually went back in but after that when i put my hand in there she would try to box me and grunted Sad i started to talk to her calmly and said i'm not going to hurt you and she started to grind her teeth she kept this up untill just now she nose nudged me and i stroked her head she also every time i go near and talk to her she jumps up and rushes to her food bowl and starts to eat scratch

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:53 pm

I think there is a fine line between allowing buns to stay in safe place and being the boss which will also make them feel more secure. I would say make sure you consistently give her a cue that you are going to disturb her - so if it is when you are cleaning her out make sure you have started to disturb the rest of the hutch and make sure you have the scoop to signal that his is cleaning time not just annoying her. If she refuses to move just pick her up and remove her but don't fuss too much about it. When you are done let her go back in and if she wants to sit back in that place don't try and fuss her or antagonise her further. Once she learns the routine she should be fine.

I think there is also something about knowing your bun well enough to read the body language. Both Bruce and Flo sit in a particular position when a caecotrophe is on the way. I would never disturb them when this is happening. I have seen the way they react to each other at this time and any input from be would not be welcomed. Equally I would not disturb them if they were sleeping nor when they have their veg. They need to feel secure at these times.

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Post by Vince the bunny Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:05 pm

perhaps she didn't like you invading her space and since you continued, she got a bit peed off. You have to keep her cage clean though Smile Could you not entice her out and clean the cage when she isn't in it? t
This would be less intrusive for her and easier for you.
As for the food thing, maybe she thinks you are going to eat it so she's letting you know she's the boss and will eat first?

Buns are so very different from each other, bit like us really Very Happy
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Post by fiver Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:11 pm

Thank you cheryl'n'bruce'flo & vince the bunny that sounds like good advice it makes sense but really had not thought of it she had a bad past so probably emphasises her insecurity as well. Thumbs Up
do you think the nose nudge is like ok your forgiven now.
i did try everything to entice her out but she was being very stubborn about it she is a very strong character and will be confrontational it seems rather than scamperwhich ties in with what i was told about her when i adopted her and tbh like that in her just want her to trust me enough to gie her the happiness and love she so deserves.

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Post by Vince the bunny Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:45 pm

I think only time will make her trust you. My Faline a year later still runs off when she sees me. I think sometimes we have to accept the way they are are enjoy their little bunny ways Smile

I think the nose nudges are her wanting attention from you so I guess if she hadn't forgiven you she wouldn't want that. I love watching my buns, it's a constant learning process. Does she live with any other buns?
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Post by fiver Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:45 pm

not as such she has her own hutch which is next to the cage the other two share like an l shape but when daisy sees her she attacks flopsy (deferred agression) or something.
i also don't understand it was not long ago i got cuddles with her.
i suppose as you say mood swings.

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