Sue has urolithiasis - anyone have any info?

Gorgeous George and his lovely bride, Gemma, are due their myxi jabs so I am off to the vet later. Hopefully, he will see the difference in them both after six months. They are much better when being handled now.

I'm taking Peggy too as I think she may need another dental. I keep trying to watch her eating and not managing to. I put some carrots with tops in the hutch the other evening and she did eat some of the tops, but not the carrots so I want her checked to be on the safe side. Am taking Sue as well to get her teeth checked as she feels a bit lighter when I pick her up for bottom checks so I need to get her weighed. I do see her eating though so I don't think she has teeth problems.

Non dental vibes for Peggy and Sue would be appeciated as I have been off sick for a while and don't get sick pay at two of my three jobs.

Fingers crossed that Peggy and Sue are dental free.

I am sure that the vet will get a shock when she sees how well your gorgeous duo have settled down.

Good Luck hun......

Lots of anti dental vibes coming your way!

There was a very noisy GSD pup in the vet before me and it stressed my poor buns out.

Peggy's teeth are OK at the moment but I need to keep an eye on her as they don't grow straight. I could see through the instrument that one grows towards her cheek - but it isn't bothering her yet.

The vet agreed Sue feels like she has lost weight. She has never been weighed before so I don't have anything to compare it with. Her teeth are fine. He suggested I worm her and if that doesn't make any difference he will take bloods. He mentioned EC and asked if I would want to know if it was that given how awful it is. He spoke like there would be no hope but I thought buns could live with that if they had treatment. I have to pick up the wormer on Monday - they had run out - and then take her back to be weighed again after the course is finished.

George and Gemma are fine. He said they and Peggy are in great condition which made me feel chuffed. Sue just feels a bit thin, sadly.

The vet usually gets the nurse to hold the buns but I did it this time and I think they were happier. He is coming to me when the other five's myxi are due which will make life a lot easier. I wish I could get them all done at the same time but it either means leaving them longer than six months or doing them after four months and I don't want to risk either.

George and Gemma were much easier to handle than before and were beautifully behaved buns most of the time. Gemma did struggle at the end and bent the needle but the vet had finished by then. Peggy and Sue were better but I still have a fair way to go with them. I guess four years of not being touched much is a long time.

I so hope Sue doesn't have EC. I haven't bonded her and Peggy with my other outdoor three yet but they do rub noses through the wire so I guess all my outdoor buns could end up with it.

Lots of no EC vibes would be appreciated. I am trying to be positive and hope Sue will be fine after she has been wormed. She seems OK in herself. I only noticed her weight as I pick her up so much do to bottom checks - she doesn't look any thinner.

Hopefully, she is just a bit of a thinster. Maybe when she is wormed she will be OK.

Glad that everyone else was fine. You have worked wonders with them all.

Aaw thank you. I was really pleased when the vet commented on their condition. I think they are gorgeously lovely bouncy buns but then I am biased. I did wonder if he would say George was overweight as he has really grown since he came here, but he has grown all over, not just outwards so is in proportion.

They have had some crunchies as a treat for all being such Brave Bunnies.

My darling Sue went to the vet this morning. She has lost some more weight - a very tiny amount, but it's not good. She is incredibly difficult for the vet to examine as she struggles so much.

I asked the vet if he thought it could be a tumour and he had a feel and noticed a lump by the tummy. He said it could be food. He checked her teeth and they are fine - and she is eating well anyway.

He suggested an x-ray, bloods and a check of her teeth while she is asleep so I have left her there. She has Peggy with her for company.

I am short of money at the moment (have been off work sick and don't get sick pay from two of my jobs) and Sue isn't insured but my vet is great and I am sure he will let me pay in instalments if the bill becomes too large. I just want her to be OK, but it doesn't look good.

She does have a good quality of life though so whatever is wrong I wouldn't let her go to the Bridge yet. Apart from her weight loss she is acting as usual. Is still feisty, eating, drinking and coming out in her run and snuggling with Peggy. She has tiny sore on her ear as well but I think she has either scratched it or had a disagreement with Peggy, although the latter is unlikely.

I have to go to Andover this afternoon (live in Havant) and know I will have trouble concentrating on my meeting. I just want my baby back and for her to be OK.

Please, please send my beautiful Sue bun any spare vibes you have. She is an adorable, squishy bundle of loveliness and deserves to be happy as her first four years before she went to BARC weren't brilliant.

Wishing her oodles of vibes honey! millions and millions!

I hope that whatever the problem is its amino one and that she can be easily fixed up.

Thinking of you both.

Katie x x

Thank you lots Katie.

Have just got back from the vet and it was bad news.

Sue's X-ray showed that one of her kidneys is completely calcified and the other is only half working. The vet said it was probably caused when she was younger by incorrect diet. He also said it is rare. He has spoken to two vets at other practices and they haven't come across it.

He said if I can find out from any other bunny lovers if they've had a bun with it what treatment they have had he will be happy to try it (I told him I belong to bunny forums). He's looked on-line and can't find much info. I suppose I should be pleased he is being honest, but feel at a bit of a loss now.

I need to give Sue a low calcium diet and try and bulk her up as she is losing weight and maybe give her some vitamin supplements. She currently has SS which I know is high in calcium. Does anyone know which pellet mix is low is calcium - but still has some goodness in it. She also has spring greens daily and occasional carrot and broccoli (which I think is high in calcium). I don't want to deprive the poor darling of her favourite foods. She loves bread - which I know is normally a bad thing to give buns - but if it puts weight on her, I am not sure it would be so awful to treat her.

The bill came to £137.97 for an X-ray with anaesthetic which seemed an awful lot to me. Does that sound about right? I wouldn't mind if she was better but she isn't

I don't know when I will recognise it is time for her to go to the Bridge. I don't want her to suffer as she will if she goes into renal failure. At the moment the vet agrees with me that it isn't the right time. She does have a good quality of life.

Sue and Peggy are so totally devoted (the vet nurse commented on it) I don't know how Peggy will cope with the worst happens. She will be so incredibly lonely. I was intending to bond Peggy and Sue with my other three but didn't and they may be a bit overwhelming for poor Peggy.

Maybe I shouldn't be worrying about that now, but I am sitting here in tears and it is all going around and around my head

Oh Karen,

I hope you are okay. Im so sorry to hear that Sue is so poorly.

Im afraid I dont know anything at all about the illness so cant help there, but I am thinking of you.

I know that sometimes specialist people pop onto this site so it might be worth starting a new thread so that it is easily seen and read....in the hope of catching their eye.

I think the amount you were charged sounds about right - daisy had his foot xray'd last week and it was £168.

I so wish there was something I could say or do to help.

Sending you both lots of vibes, lots of love, and ill be thinking of you.

Katie x x x x