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Post by Becki Tue May 24, 2011 2:54 pm

No wonder the poor girl hasn't been herself. She went in for investigation this morning & she's had a huge abscess that has burst & completely ruptured her ear drum. There is some serious infection down there Crying or Very sad The vet has sent off a swab for a C & S test, Not sure what this is for? I feel really upset actually, I just can't imagine the pain that she has been in - She has been so unbelievably brave. I can't wait for her to come home to her Mum Sad XX
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Post by Felix&Willow Tue May 24, 2011 3:12 pm

Ah poor Rhia! Hope she is feeling better soon Hugs
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Post by Velvet.Tears Tue May 24, 2011 3:46 pm

Oh no!! Poor Rhia, no wonder she hasn't been feeling herself!! Vibes for Rhia. Hugs
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Post by Happy Hoppers Tue May 24, 2011 6:01 pm

The C&S test will be too grow a sample of the bacteria in the ear and determine which antibiotics will be the most successful in treating the abscess.

Poor Rhia, that must be incredibly painful for her, how long is she being kept in for?
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Post by NickieM Tue May 24, 2011 6:29 pm

Poor Rhia. She'll be feeling a lot better now the pressure has eased. What a poor wee soul. Sending her lots of noserubs. xx
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Post by Tuckerbunnies Wed May 25, 2011 3:08 am

Poor brave girl let's hope that when they have done the C&S test they will come up with an antibiotic that will treat it successfully, sending her lots of 'healing 'Vibes xxx Hugs

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Post by LilyGrace Wed May 25, 2011 9:32 am

Oh gosh! Poor little lady, vibes for both of you Hugs at least you know what it is now. xxx
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Post by Jay Wed May 25, 2011 10:18 am

Oh poor Rhia, lots of healing vibes, and calming ones for you becki Hugs
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Post by KatieB Wed May 25, 2011 11:09 am

How is she today hun??
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Post by Becki Wed May 25, 2011 2:50 pm

She's doing OK Thanks Katie, We were both shattered last night from such a long day & she just laid wrapped in a blanket on my knee whilst I injected her, lapped up her medicine in baby puree & went to bed. She's a right little trooper. Went to Tesco on lunch & have stocked up on her favourite baby foods, sponges to clean her bum & legs (Wees when shes stressed, looks like a right scraggamuffin) - Just waiting for 5 O clock to go & see her now!
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Post by Lil & Ron's Mum Wed May 25, 2011 5:34 pm

What a brave little bunster. x

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Post by Dawnbunny Thu May 26, 2011 10:58 am

Oh poor little Rhia.... at least they know what is going on now.... will you hear today what the C+S result is ?

I have just taken pumpkin for the same test ear swab, we think he has a perforated eardrum also.... I have to wiat until next Tues for the result.

Sending lots of love to you and little Rhia...

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Post by Becki Thu May 26, 2011 11:39 am

Having some issues re Metacam dose. She has been prescribed 4ml daily which cannot be right, and could possibly be dangerous. Waiting on advice from Kay's vet, but I have been in a right tizz about it. I cant give her none & her be in pain, but if I overdose her...Well.

She wasn't well at all last night & I felt completely hopeless (She'd had 3ml of metacam!!! Shocked How she was in pain, I have no idea!) but touch wood, she started picking up about 8pm & is happier this morning X
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Post by Becki Thu May 26, 2011 11:41 am

Dawn, Im not sure about the C & S test. The vet will ring me when it comes back. Thinking of Pumpkin, Let us know he he gets on X
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Post by Dawnbunny Thu May 26, 2011 11:51 am

Becki wrote:Having some issues re Metacam dose. She has been prescribed 4ml daily which cannot be right, and could possibly be dangerous. Waiting on advice from Kay's vet, but I have been in a right tizz about it. I cant give her none & her be in pain, but if I overdose her...Well.

She wasn't well at all last night & I felt completely hopeless (She'd had 3ml of metacam!!! Shocked How she was in pain, I have no idea!) but touch wood, she started picking up about 8pm & is happier this morning X

Ah poor little Rhia...glad she picked up and uis happier this morning..

Pumpkin is on 5kg of metacam, its a different dosage syringe, thinnner than the ml ones.

Hope this helps...

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Post by Becki Thu May 26, 2011 12:27 pm

5ml, Is that? Or 0.5ml? Rhia is on the dog one which is 1.5ml/kg strength. It cant be right. XX
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Post by KatieB Thu May 26, 2011 1:09 pm



Daisy is on a a 5kg dose twice daily. This is because our specialist said that bunnies need 5x the dosage and twice as often as another animal would.

So daisy weighs just over 1kg So therefore gets a 10kg dose in a day.

Daisy's specialist really knows his stuff and i would completely trust him with anything bun related.

normally with Metacam / Meloxydil the syringe that comes with it is marked up as KG doses. so 5 on the syringe would be a 5kg dose.
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Post by Becki Thu May 26, 2011 1:22 pm

Thanks for that Katie. So, how many ml's of metacam is Daisy having a day? And this is the dog metacam, not the cat? Thanks X
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Post by KatieB Thu May 26, 2011 1:28 pm

The syringe I have shows it in KG doses but when I compare it to a normal syringe it looks like it could be 0.10 ml per day.

Its dog metacam. You might want the check the difference between the kg dose and the ml dose if you can because I can be sure they are the same. But it does seem like if your vet has said 0.4 per day that would be not enough. 4ml sounds excessive.
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Post by Dawnbunny Thu May 26, 2011 1:32 pm

Hi Becki ,

I have the cat metacam...

Metacam is given in Kg not in mls. Can you get a KG syringe from the vet ?

I have taken a Kg syringe and filled it with 5 KG ( standard dose for bunnies) and then switched it to mls syringe.

5kg = 1/2 of 1ml , thats 5 of the smaller bars on the ml syringe 0.5ml (half way before you reach 1 ml).

hope this helps , not sure if it will as its cat metacam.

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Post by Dawnbunny Thu May 26, 2011 1:37 pm

Katieb wrote:

Daisy is on a a 5kg dose twice daily. This is because our specialist said that bunnies need 5x the dosage and twice as often as another animal would.

So daisy weighs just over 1kg So therefore gets a 10kg dose in a day.

Daisy's specialist really knows his stuff and i would completely trust him with anything bun related.

normally with Metacam / Meloxydil the syringe that comes with it is marked up as KG doses. so 5 on the syringe would be a 5kg dose.

HI Katie,

Its interesting about metacam... Pumpkin is only on 5 kg once a day.. I asked if he could have more ie up to 10 kg if needed but the vet said no as she is worried as metacam can cause stomach ucleration and therefore to only give it to Pumpkin when absolutely needed.

This had made me more wary of when I give it to him..

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Post by KatieB Thu May 26, 2011 1:46 pm

Dawnbunny wrote:
Katieb wrote:

Daisy is on a a 5kg dose twice daily. This is because our specialist said that bunnies need 5x the dosage and twice as often as another animal would.

So daisy weighs just over 1kg So therefore gets a 10kg dose in a day.

Daisy's specialist really knows his stuff and i would completely trust him with anything bun related.

normally with Metacam / Meloxydil the syringe that comes with it is marked up as KG doses. so 5 on the syringe would be a 5kg dose.

HI Katie,

Its interesting about metacam... Pumpkin is only on 5 kg once a day.. I asked if he could have more ie up to 10 kg if needed but the vet said no as she is worried as metacam can cause stomach ucleration and therefore to only give it to Pumpkin when absolutely needed.

This had made me more wary of when I give it to him..

Dawn

I had the same concern when daisy was first put on his dosage and was told that while this can happen - for daisy, it was a matter of weighing up what he "needed" to make sure he was pain free, against the risk.

Please understand that I am by no means undermining what anyones vet has prescribed. I just want to share my experience. You might also want to use this information as a promt to encourage the vet to research further - as I understood it at the time, this was new guidance and may no have filtered through to many vets yet.
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Post by Becki Thu May 26, 2011 1:58 pm

Thanks ladies. Rhia is on 4ml (So four ml full syringes, to give scale) (Not .4 ml) of the dog strength metacam. I am so stressed, Im not carrying on giving her that, she might die?! But I cant give her not-enough. I dont know what to do.
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Post by KatieB Thu May 26, 2011 2:10 pm

Becki, it sounds like to much.

Call your vet hun. How much does she weigh?
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Post by Dawnbunny Thu May 26, 2011 2:25 pm

Katieb wrote:
Dawnbunny wrote:
Katieb wrote:

Daisy is on a a 5kg dose twice daily. This is because our specialist said that bunnies need 5x the dosage and twice as often as another animal would.

So daisy weighs just over 1kg So therefore gets a 10kg dose in a day.

Daisy's specialist really knows his stuff and i would completely trust him with anything bun related.

normally with Metacam / Meloxydil the syringe that comes with it is marked up as KG doses. so 5 on the syringe would be a 5kg dose.

HI Katie,

Its interesting about metacam... Pumpkin is only on 5 kg once a day.. I asked if he could have more ie up to 10 kg if needed but the vet said no as she is worried as metacam can cause stomach ucleration and therefore to only give it to Pumpkin when absolutely needed.

This had made me more wary of when I give it to him..

Dawn

I had the same concern when daisy was first put on his dosage and was told that while this can happen - for daisy, it was a matter of weighing up what he "needed" to make sure he was pain free, against the risk.

Please understand that I am by no means undermining what anyones vet has prescribed. I just want to share my experience. You might also want to use this information as a promt to encourage the vet to research further - as I understood it at the time, this was new guidance and may no have filtered through to many vets yet.

Hi Katie,

Oh I didnt think you were undermining anything.. I was just sharing my experience also .. my vet can be to over cautious in my opinion.

I agree with you , I think they can have up to 10 kg from what I have read and if Pumpkin was still in pain I would give up to that dose to help him if he needed it. Like you say you have to weigh up the risks....and make sure they are pain free.... its difficult if a bun has a long term complaint and wieghing up if they are in pain as they can be good at hiding it.

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