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Post by c.bolduan Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:57 pm

Hi Folks,
Need some advice and ideas please.
Woke this morning at 6 by the noise and commoktion that came from the warren.
Found that Coffee had escaped out of his enclosure, must have jumped straight up 1.20m to achieve this and was having a fight with Bertie. Evil or Very Mad  No 
Bubbles sat shell shocked in her hutch.
Separated the two and checked and found a tiny scratch on coffee face just below his left eye. Cleaned it and looks ok now.
This was not planed as a bonding procedure and I'm unsure of how to go ahead.
Plan was to allow them to meet in the hall over the weekend with times increasing.
Don't want to stress them more as they are. confused  Rolling Eyes 
They are all eating, weeping and pooing ok, although Bertie and Bubbles spread their poo all over the room.


Update today.
Found a wound on his left leg crusted over and clean.
They were out all day despite the pollution warning and seem to enjoy themselves until the rain came along.
Bubbles is still avoid with me as she doesn't like bad weather but I cleaned the warren, not to much, and didn't realise it had started to pour it down.
Hence a spoiling dinner was seven including tiger courgette and raspberries. So all better now.
only swapping bedding and poo at present not to rush anything.
He is the easiest going bun I have ever met. Loves his food and cuddles like crazy Razz Razz rabbit rabbit Rolling Eyes 


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Post by c.bolduan Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:58 pm

They don't weep, but wee!!

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Post by paullp Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:15 pm

I'm not sure, ideally they would have been in neutral territory for their meeting. They had different plans!
Just be really patient, it can take a long time and even then re bonding might need to happen every now and then if something or somebun upsets one of them

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Post by FluffSlave Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:38 pm

I'm not sure about this so will leave it to the bonding experts to give you some advice.

I can send vibes for Coffee's scratch though, and hugs all round - that must have been quite a shock for you! Hugs

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Post by jolovesbunnies Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:55 pm

Bonding can take 6 months sometimes; Binky and Holly bonded but then fell out again but I think that maybe because Binky was ill. Just give them time love, it is unfortunatley a waiting game.

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Post by c.bolduan Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:33 pm

An update!
This morning I found that Bubbles had managed to get into his run whilst I was replenishing water bottles and dishes.
Initially a short strop but then friendly kisses. She is a little tart Laughing 
Bertie sat outside watching in disgust.
As it was a lovely day here I managed to set up his run and re adjusted the little apex hutch and one of the run around pipes to it!
He loved it!!. His run is now next to the binky box so they all can have a chat if wished so.
Found the first dandelion leaves as well and this was a winner.
Will take some pics tomorrow but they seem a little calmer tonight.
I continue to rinse his eye with sterile saline and it is a little red because he scratches it. If it continues we will have to see the vet on Tuesday as I do a long shift on Monday.
I do understand that it can take time and this is not an issue for me. I just don't want them to injure themselves or get to stressed.
So any vibes are welcome
And thanks for all ideas and suggestions!

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Post by Sixer Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:23 am

They seem very keen to get to know each other better  Smile  I would just be a little careful though about allowing access to each other through the binky box/run if the wire/mesh is large enought to allow them to bite each other's noses. If there is a safe distance apart or if the mesh is small enough then this is a good way for them to learn about each other.

These are a couple of useful links with bonding information and advice.

http://flashsplace.webs.com/bondingbunnies.htm

http://www.windwhistlewarren.org.uk/guides/guiderb.pdf

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Post by jolovesbunnies Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:30 pm

More bonding vibes are on their way hun, please let us know how they progress and get on.

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Post by c.bolduan Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:42 pm

Here is an update from today!
Managed to keep the separated after altering the lay out of Coffees run.
Well done Claudia
All three have been out today enjoying the air and sun.
Thank you Sixer for the hint with the chatting wall.
Not knowing I have done the right thing.
The mesh is crossing over or there is about 3 cm spaces between them, so no chance of nipping or worse.
Some pics
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Post by Sixer Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:54 am

How lovely to see them all in the sun  Love 
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Post by FluffSlave Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:21 am

It looks like they're enjoying themselves Thumbs Up

I hope the bonding continues to go well. Sending bonding vibes your way! Hugs
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Post by Sparky Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:35 pm

They look pretty relaxed around each other  Smile 

Bear in mind that this time of year with spring fever and moulting stress, can make even the most tolerant of buns a bit more short-tempered than they usually would be. I think if you take it slowly, they might be just fine  Thumbs Up
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Post by c.bolduan Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:31 pm

Another update.....
After discussing with Anna I have swapped them tonight in their hutches. Lots of sniffing and curiosity whilst enjoying beetroot and fenugreek crunchies. No aggression seen. Will continue with this for the next week or so and than reassess.
Thanks for all you help Wave albino Thumbs Up 

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Post by c.bolduan Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:51 pm

See update on page 1
Can't work this out properly. Stupid hoomin mum No No Laughing No No Laughing Smile 

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Post by KatieB Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:32 am

Sorry I missed this Hun. I'm not a bonding expert but I am sending some bonding vibes .... Bunnies just don't know what's best for them! Coffee sounds like a cheeky monkey!
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Post by c.bolduan Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:10 pm

Indeed,
He managed to jump out of the pen again last night and Bertie later jumped in.
They do this by going on top of the feriplastntray cage No pale Hissy Sad 
Which scares the heck out of me. If getting tangled in there and than scared...... Coud be really nasty. So at present I'm designing Fort Knox for them by using wood and mesh to build a proper cover and then put carpet scares on the cage. Of to Argos now to get a staple gun Wave No Wave Hugs 

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Post by jolovesbunnies Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:51 pm

Ha ha, they love to keep us busy. I hope the bonding is going well love.

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