Panacur

Should I give charlie and annie a course of Panacur?

What is the thinking on this at the mo??

AT the RWAF conf. last year, Richard Saunders and FH-B both endorsed an owners point about giving Panacur to rabbits that had been around other rabbits, like rescue buns...

We talked about boarding and rescues. A rescue said that when she has a bun in for a bonding, and then the new pair go home, she recommends that both rabbits are given Panacur for 28 days afterwards. Frances H-B was sitting in on the talk, and agreed that this was a good idea, so did Richard.

From my notes: https://happyhoppers.forumotion.co.uk/t14309-rwaf-conference-2011-my-notes

Cool thanks Jay, ill get some sorted.

do you think I need to give it to Daisy too??

I dont think you need to worry about Daisy. But if it puts your mind at ease, it cant harm him just this once.

I reccomend vet UK as its cheaper than P@H and the vets. Id your using panacur, weigh the buns before ordering. You give 1 syringe graduation a day per kg of body weight. Maggie is on 28 day course and ive needed to use 1 and a half syringes, so you may need 3-5 depending on if you choose to worm his royal highness too.

On vetsuk is it the 10% or 2.5% you need? Just thinking this applies to me too!

I think Sophia was talking about the rabbit stuff. But I have used the 10% liquid on the vets direction before.

Ah the rabbit done doesn't cone up if you search for "panacur" but does if you search for "rabbit panacur"

Thanks Cheryl

We always give newbuns a course of Panacur for 28 days, Faith is on Panacur at the moment just to be on the safe side. Sometimes we will Panacur them twice a year.

I give any new rabbit here (or one that has been away for bonding) a 9 day course of Panacur, only 28 days to treat if active EC discovered (on FHB's advice).

Big Ears wrote:I give any new rabbit here (or one that has been away for bonding) a 9 day course of Panacur, only 28 days to treat if active EC discovered (on FHB's advice).

We just give them 28 days to be on the safe side.

Tuckerbunnies wrote:

Big Ears wrote:I give any new rabbit here (or one that has been away for bonding) a 9 day course of Panacur, only 28 days to treat if active EC discovered (on FHB's advice).

We just give them 28 days to be on the safe side.

I was advised not to give them 28 days as there are potential side-effects that could be more detimental than the benefits from it. I can't remember the details but is it something to do with bone marrow? It could potentially weaken some important part of the immune system if over used. I had asked specifically about giving Esme 28 days as Artie (who she lives next to) had active EC at the time, she will 100% definite have been exposed to it - I was still advised that Esme and all the others should only be given 9 days. ... but nobody knows for definite of course is all guesses and gambles unless there is more research done.

Big Ears wrote:

Tuckerbunnies wrote:

Big Ears wrote:I give any new rabbit here (or one that has been away for bonding) a 9 day course of Panacur, only 28 days to treat if active EC discovered (on FHB's advice).

We just give them 28 days to be on the safe side.

I was advised not to give them 28 days as there are potential side-effects that could be more detimental than the benefits from it. I can't remember the details but is it something to do with bone marrow? It could potentially weaken some important part of the immune system if over used. I had asked specifically about giving Esme 28 days as Artie (who she lives next to) had active EC at the time, she will 100% definite have been exposed to it - I was still advised that Esme and all the others should only be given 9 days. ... but nobody knows for definite of course is all guesses and gambles unless there is more research done.

That is very interesting as I didn't know that, our vet just told us with Faith to do the 28 day course in case she did have EC. I will mention this about bone marrow to her.

Thank You for that

Big Ears wrote:I give any new rabbit here (or one that has been away for bonding) a 9 day course of Panacur, only 28 days to treat if active EC discovered (on FHB's advice).

I do wish these wonderful people could decide on one thing for sure

If it's not being too cheeky, could you ask Frances, next time you see her, about that question, she did seem pretty certain in her answer, as did Richard

I spoke to Mr C this morning who said not to give it at all. Im very confused indeed.

Jay wrote:

Big Ears wrote:I give any new rabbit here (or one that has been away for bonding) a 9 day course of Panacur, only 28 days to treat if active EC discovered (on FHB's advice).

I do wish these wonderful people could decide on one thing for sure

If it's not being too cheeky, could you ask Frances, next time you see her, about that question, she did seem pretty certain in her answer, as did Richard

Not cheeky at all, I'm wondering if she was agreeing to the idea of the course of Panacur rather than the 28 day course specifically mentioned. FHB's fairly consistent stance on Panacur has been give them 9 days on arrival as 'a one-off course will probably be beneficial' but she can't find any evidence to suggest that 2 - 4 courses of 9 days a year is of any benefit and could possibly do harm, but I was strongly discouraged from 28 days when no evidence it is necessary. The issue about bone marrow *I think* I picked up from T'internet not directly from FHB but I can't remember for sure My next routine visit won't be for a month but I will put it on my list of questions because I also want to ask if Artie should have another course, it now being 6 months since he tested with a high titre for EC.

Tuckerbunnies wrote:
Thank You for that

You're welcome. I can't remember if I got it right as to the reason giving it when not necessary could be bad but it was definitely something to do with interfering with immune system or something such But I was also told that nobody really knows for sure whether or not to give it or how much to give

To anyone else who gets Panacur - I found a website www.nutrecare.co.uk where the bunny tube is only £4.07 and is free postage. I ordered two yesterday.

I just hope that Florence takes it easier than she did the Metacam when she got spayed

icedancer wrote:I just hope that Florence takes it easier than she did the Metacam when she got spayed

I wouldn't count on it. I didn't like it at all

Panacur has arrived this morning!

Should I use a different tube for both Florence and Dougal, or the same tube? I did get two just in case.

icedancer wrote:Panacur has arrived this morning!

Should I use a different tube for both Florence and Dougal, or the same tube? I did get two just in case.

If it were me I would use a different tube yes

My vet said to do a 9 day course and 28 is to be reserved for any active cases.
I've not done Tigger since March/April last year but Jeeves has never been done. I may do them both now just for this year so I know it's done and they've both been done the same time.

Can someone please explain what you would use panacur for?

I never ever used it. (I hope that doesn't make me negligent )

I know I could google, but I thought I would post the question instead as it may be useful to others

Thank you!

Thumper2001 wrote:Can someone please explain what you would use panacur for?

I never ever used it. (I hope that doesn't make me negligent )

I know I could google, but I thought I would post the question instead as it may be useful to others

Thank you!

Panacur is actually a wormer for dogs and cats but is usually given to rabbits with E.Cuniculi for 30 days as a preventative ( not as a cure) for the disease. Our vet suggested we gave Faith a course after she came around from her dental with a head tilt, Faith finishes her course in the next few days and has not (touch wood) had head tilt since.
Obviously they do a rabbit Panacur now, but we prefer the cat and dog Panacur as we find it easier to use

Thank you Maysie

I don't think I was negligent then as Thumper never had anything like that

Thumper2001 wrote:Can someone please explain what you would use panacur for?

I never ever used it. (I hope that doesn't make me negligent )

I know I could google, but I thought I would post the question instead as it may be useful to others

Thank you!

You are not negligent at all.

There is a bit of debate in the bunny medicine world about the use of this. Even the experts cannot agree. There are risks associated with giving panacur to buns as a preventative measure. I asked Mr C about this in the end and he said that I should not be giving it to Charlie and Annabelle, so Im going with his advice.

Its a really tricky one.