Forgien object 3RD UPDATE

Remember I said Henry was giving me a few worries? He's not been entirely himself for a little while now though I couldn't put my finger on the cause.
He's been eating all his food but spreading his meals over long periods (three times as long as normal) and he's been starting activities then just stopping and lying down. He looks great, passed his check up on Monday with a clean bill of health but I still felt there was "something".
All bunny owners will know what I mean when I say that there's "something not right".
Anyway, twice since Monday he has gone to sleep in his litter tray ... that's NOT Henry. Then this morning I knelt down beside him as he ate his nuggets at breakfast and I could hear a whistling! A definite whistle like there's something up his nose and he also sounded a bit stuffy with it. Once he stopped eating the breathing noises stopped. Then, later, I noticed when he ran up to me he sounded very stuffy again but within seconds he was okay.
He seems quite depressed at times, then eager to play/eat at others, but when playing he may quickly stop and to lie down. He looks completely relaxed, lying at full stretch and sleeping peacefully. But he's NOT Henry.
I've spoken with vet Alex this afternoon and we discussed the possibility of something in his nasal cavity. Tomorrow morning (11-15) he goes to see Alex with the possibility of having a GA and a camera popped up his nose.... that's if nothing else is evident to Alex.

Has anyone had experience of a rabbit with something up its nose? I haven't, except Henry having fur wads up his nose during this summers moult. I'm a bit worried about tomorrow... Alex did mention tooth roots, which brought to mind what vet Richard said about Henry's tooth roots in the summer.
Tell me, please, anything you know about objects and tooth roots.

Sorry woodwench I know nothing but will be thinking off you both
Xxx

Is there any chance that it's snot up his nose? Have you seen any snot-like substances in the house that he may have sneezed out? Have you noticed him sneezing at all?

Thanks Gemma.
Thumper: He does sneeze a bit but there is no discharge or snot. No thick eye discharge, just the "normal" one tear thing he does every few weeks. He seems A1 but he's so tired. He starts to play, do normal nosey rabbit things then gives up and lies down. He's breathing fine until he eats or runs around.
It's weird.

I am afraid I haven't had any experience of that kind hunni but I hope the little chap is better soon.

Hugs
JO xx

At midnight(ish) I saw him do something really odd. He began collecting hay in his mouth like a doe would who is building a nest. He had done this on Tuesday morning but I had forgotten it amongst the worry of his breathing/lethargy etc.
Have you ever seen, or heard of, a neutered buck gathering hay to nest build?

When I done a search when Miranda went through her phantom pregnancy I did read although rare bucks(even neutered ones) may nest build but it is not known for them to pull out their fur like does.
Can't mind what site it was from read that many, if I get a chance later on I'll try find it again xxx

Thanks for that. I was searching online until 2-30 this morning.
I had wondered about an hormone imbalance ... that could also account for his erratic behaviour, though not the breathing issue. And again, I thought the nesting might be a stress thing. Anyway this morning he is bright and almost normal (normal for Henry that is!), he's chomping hay for England and even interfered (sorry, that should read: HELPED) while I was doing his litter tray. It seems a bit unfair to haul him off to the vets again, but he was a bit stuffy whilst eating his nuggets.
Just hope he doesn't have to have the camera up his nose.... not nice.

Fingers and paws crossed

Xxx

Well he went like a dear wee lamb to the slaughter, even hopped into his travel box on his own accord!
Chatting with Alex, the vet, we decided to give him a GA and first investigate his nose. There was nothing apparently wrong with him that Alex could find by a straight forward check over. He planned to examine up his nose, then, if that revealed nothing, he was going to look in the nasal cavity. If all was well there he would check teeth and do a skull X-ray to see how the tooth roots are.
I spoke to Alex a few minutes ago. Henry will be coming home by taxi at 4-15 after having found a white discharge up his right nostril. A sample was taken and is being sent for analysis. I'm going to be syringing drugs for a day or two ... Yippeee, love that job, not!
Just shows, if you have a gut feeling, go with it! Henners looked A1 and there was no evidence to say he wasn't.... but, mummy knows best!
As for the nest building: apparently that's quite common in bucks, especially as winter approaches, and is nothing to fret about. I guess Henry is one of those New Age bucks, in touch with his feminine side! This morning I got up to find he had been building a nest in one of my shoes!
Thinking about it, maybe the hay shenanigans on Monday night was part of the nesting thing, there were a number of bundles of hay strewn about as well as the digging debris.
Trust me to get a strange one!!!

Hope he gets well soon, what is it with rabbits and shoes?? Lol
Xxx

I am glad they have found something love so they can put it right. Mother's intuition is rarely wrong.

Hugs
Jo xx

He's home, VERY sorry for himself but took a syringe feed of Recovery like it was going out of fashion! Now he's wrapped in a towel by the fire and grooming away the smell of those awful humans who made him feel so poorly.

Oh bless him. Hope he is back to his nest building very soon. And well done in realising that something wasn't quite right.

Well done for spotting something was up! Glad he is home and on the mend

Bless him. Give him a nose bump from me. How is he today? ...Forgive me, Ive scanned through the thread, but was nothing found? xx

Oh bless his little cotton tail, it sounds as if he is is on the way to being back to normal love.  Yes all those smelly humans, got to get rid of the smell LOL!!

Hugs
JO xx

I stayed up with all night last night and may do the same tonight. He is very quiet, sleeping most of the time but with the odd hop around every couple of hours; what bothers me is that he would gladly sleep in his litter tray in the dining room where there's no heating. That means I let him into go to his tray (he won't use a tray anywhere else!) and watch him perform then usher him back into the sitting room warmth. He needs to pass some more poops for me to be happy too.
He's taking syringing well, once he gets the taste on his tongue, but it's taken until this evening for him to eat some nuggets. He was taking the odd bit of a treat last night but not much, though he did eat the odd stalk of hay voluntarily. Today he's sought hay, greens and a few treaty bits on his own.
He's on 1ml Loxicom daily and 1.1 Septrim (think that's right, can never remember for sure). These I syringe in Recovery but I hope he will soon take them on a mini shredded wheat.
I think he must feel quite sore having had some tiny spurs off his teeth, the nasal endoscopy and his tear ducts flushed. The teeth weren't bad, not bothering him at all but Alex removed them "while he had him under". His ducts were clear. There was just that white discharge in his right nostril.
Hope to get the results back Monday or Tuesday.

Bless him At least hes picking at food. Im not surprised hes off, given all the prodding and poking hes had done. More nose rubs and vibes. xxxx

Im glad he has been checked out and he is going to be ok.

Always trust your gut when it comes to bunnies I recon!

Thinking of Henry and you
Hope it good news
Xxx

Lots of love and healing vibes on their way hunni.

Hugs
Jo xx

He's improving. He's eating about two thirds of his usual food and the rest is made up for with the syringed food in which I pop his antibiotics.
It was hell syringing him this morning.
But.... I saw a binky a few minutes ago!

Oh wow, I am so pleased darling, if he is binkying he is feeling seriously better,  I cannot tell you how glad I am.

Hugs
JO xx

Thank goodness for bite sized shredded wheat... he took his loxicom and the antibiotic on them today. Yesterdays syringing was a nightmare, he's still suspicious of me (and me him).
He's about back to his old self though, a bit of sneezy/snuffliness at times but he's eating well again and I've had a few binkies! He also boxed me when I put my hand down to try and see if he had a wet nose, so he's recovering fast.
Still not heard what the swap showed.