using bed as a toilet

my trio use their bed as a toilet In the summer it was ok, as I just put newspaper in it and they would only poop in it which I cleaned out every day. With it getting cold now, I want to stuff it with hay like I did last year for warmth, but as soon as I put hay in there, they wee on it. This means I have to change the bedding every day too which will use heaps of hay. Maybe this is normal bunny behaviour? They never used to do it so I don't know what to do this year. I have tried putting towels and fleece in there, sometimes they wee on it sometimes not.
Why do buns and guinea pigs for that matter, pee in their bed????? Why would you want to do that????

Thinking about buns toileting whilst eating maybe they associate hay with litter trays? Bruce rips up anything soft and snuggly and Flo pees on them.

Who on earth knows????

I really dont know what the answer is hun sorry!

Oh dear, so do i just use newspaper in their bed or do I change heaps of hay every day?

There must be an association there somewhere. My two got quite mixed up over a tray I filled with hay and their toilets which had hay in the corner.

I find the odd poo in the bed now but no wee.

You dont really want to be doing that - it will cost you a fortune. I wonder if there is a way to make them think of somewhere else as their loo? Let me put my thinking cap on!

is it in a corner? Garrus and Benezia used to pee in their bed too eventhough it wasn't in their usual toilet corner.. when I moved it they had two litterboxes in two corners and a cozy bed in a random spot nowhere near a corner

Do you have litter trays? There is a possibility you can try help lessen the confusion by putting litter in the toilets and then hay in a rack next to it or in a ball next to it rather than in the tray itself.

They have a litter box with hay hung above it so they may be confused. It seems to stem from when I took them out of their two tier hutch and moved them into the two hutches joined by a run. Now they are in the aviary, they have a 3ft hutch and a trixie house to snuggle into but they used both as a toilet instead when I added hay. Tonight I have just put paper in there.

They wee all in the hutch, not one corner. I tried putting a litter tray in the hutch too, I use megasorb in the litter boxes so it is different to everwhere else. The litter box in the hutch didn't make a difference.

It's so frustrating as they never used to do this, their bedroom compartment was stuffed with hay and I just topped it up and changed it every few weeks, checking it regularly for toileting (which they didn't do).

Hmmm
Maybe it could all be down to the change in environment since the aviary.

Sounds like they have changed the way they see the hutch - I wonder if this one has a different smell to their other one?

I think it is smell, when they first started using a hutch with hay as a loo, it was a hutch that had been used for guinea pigs, so I thought at the time it must be the piggie smell they don't like (even though I stripped it, literally unscrewed it, and cleaned it and air dried it before using it for them). Now I am not sure if it is a different smell they are not liking or the assosiation of hay and the litter tray. Whatever it is, how will they go through winter with no hay as bedding for warmth, or how do I dispose os tones of hay each week (I have a green recycle bin for garden waste that is collected weekly, but it'd fill it easy what with the guinea pig waste too) and afford all the hay they will get through?

Bins and getting rid of bun waste is such a problem.

Can you not buy a bale? We found a farm near us that sell a bale for £8 and it lasts 3 months

I buy by the bale at the mo, but the trio are huge hay eaters and get through heaps of it

Haha what an awkward bunch

Is there any way their other hutch will fit in there so they have two hutches - one to sleep in and to to use as loo??

What giving the hutch another big clean and leaving it out of there all day so they have no choice but to loose their trays - then putting the cleaned hutch back in with no hay at all in there, just fleecy blankets, with hay in the litter trays outside?

Mine always used their bed for their toilet and I used to just change it every day. In the winter, I just cleaned it and filled it daily. It took a lot of hay, but I bought a bale. It was wasteful though.

You could try giving the hutch another clean, keeping back some of the dirty peed on hay and some poops, putting that in a litter tray and just putting fleece in the bed and see if they get the idea from that.

Thanks for your help guys, what i have done is last night I just put paper in the hutch and the trixie hut and there was only one wee in the hutch and a few poos. The litter box has been used thoroughly So tonight, I have put fleece and towels in both hutch and hut and a small litter tray in the hutch where the wee was. I will see what happens overnight. I don't like the thought of them being cold.

I have tried scrubbing the hutch to remove any smells of wee, but it seems to be the hay that makes them use it as a toilet.

I think I'd rather wash fleece every other day than chuck out heaps of hay, I don't think my recycling bin will be able to cope!