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Post by Jay Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:24 am

What a scary few hours I've just had. I don't know how peoople who aren't members of forums get their buns through things sometimes, I'm so grateful for what i learn here.
The last 3 days Berts has been ravenously hungry, and chewing loads more than normal. I figured something might be up, then yesterday morning after brekky he adopted 'that' pose, went off to 'that' place to sit and didn't move again until I got home at 3 ish. Symptoms were'nt bad, he wasn't in pain, just not interested in food, so I gave him infacol and massages, as he was making gurgles.

He normally has his dinner 5.30, wouldn't look at it and by 6.30 I'd started to syringe feed him. By now he was certainly in pain, well hunched, the odd tooth grind, so i gave him a 10kg dose of metacam. After 1/2 an hour or so, there was no change, which is when I got worried. About 8.30, I picked him up from his toilet where he'd been puddinged out, to find the little guy covered underneath in runny sludge Sad It was really smelly, sticky, not black, just like thick mashed SS pellets, and there was quite a lot of it. We showered him off, got him cleaned up and dried, and he went off into his 'sick' corner, and I set up a tray, hay/herbs bowl, water, and got the air bed out and settled in for the duration.

I kept feeding him mashed SS and recovery every hour. Over the next 6 hours I gave him 2 more doses (5kg) of metacam , and water with probiotic every hour. It took till 3 a.m. before he started moving of his own free will, and by 3.30 he'd started to eat hay. I must have fallen asleep after that. Paul woke me up this morning, and Berts was running around with Bertrude in his mouth Happy Dance

I'm keeping him off veges for the next few days, just hay, herbs, and SS, and will monitor him closely, but so far it seems we are over the worst.

is it me or do HH bunstas seem to get the same things at the same time? It seems Berts is not alone with this.

Thanks to Theo for taking a call from me x


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Post by jan Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:46 am

Glad that Bertie a lot better.They do keep us on our toes.Give Bertie a nose rub Love
Think you are in need of a Hugs Hugs
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Post by Jay Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:48 am

Thanks Jan, I am indeed! Berts is doing Ok at tthe mo, will pass on nose rub as req. Smile
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Post by thumpersmum Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:12 pm

I'm so glad he's ok Jay, well done you. These bunny's are a real stress at times but you've done really well.

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Post by Josephine Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:44 pm

Pleased Bertie has recovered now. Sending him nose rubs and lots of Hugs for you. Very Happy
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Post by LilleJente Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:52 pm

I'm so glad bertie is okay!!! cheers
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Post by NickieM Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:26 pm

What a shame for you and Berts. I hope that he is feeling better now - and that you have a better night's sleep.
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Post by Catsknickers Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:53 pm

Man it is so stressful. You become acutely aware of every little thing don't you. You are just doing an incredible job. Thank goodness Berts has you. x
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Post by ElleyMay Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:02 pm

Stressful indeed! Hope it stays positive!
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Post by Snowy Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:29 pm

So pleased he has picked up again Jay, pleased I could help x
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Post by racheld69 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:18 pm

blimey - what a stressful time! glad berts is better now.
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Post by Sixer Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:46 am

Am sorry to hear Bertie has been poorly. He is lucky to have you to care for him. Well done Very Happy
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Post by Jay Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:21 pm

Thanks for your wishes, and I'm gutted to say that the incident last week has pushed us back to where we were 3 months ago beofre Berts had his diagnosis.
I've spoken to the specialist and he has upped his pain relief and it's likely that he'll be going in for more investigations next week. I have no idea what's happened, but he's having exactly the same presentations as before, 1 day on, 1 day off food. I'd allowed myself the blissful state of relaxing about it all Rolling Eyes
I just want him out of this stress, it's not good for him or us. I'll keep you posted.
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Post by thumpersmum Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:40 pm

Oh Jay, I'm so sorry, I really thought you'd got to the bottom of Bertie's problems. As you say, just when you begin to relax and thinkl it's all sorted . . . . .

Lots of hugs, roserubs and snuggles for you that you do get some answers. Hugs Hugs Hugs Hugs Hugs Hugs

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Post by NickieM Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:41 pm

Sorry to hear that Bertie is feeling ill again. I hope that the vet is able to stabilise him again and set him back on an good road to health. Hugs to you Jay. xx
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Post by ElleyMay Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:28 pm

So sorry to hear that... We're sending you lots of vibes for a full return to health.
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Post by Happy Hoppers Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:30 pm

It must feel like you have taken a huge step backwards, does the specialist feel that there is another underlying problem or more that the former diagnosis was incorrect to start with?
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Post by Jay Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:25 am

Thanks peeps x ^^ not that the diagnosis was incorrect, I've sen the X-rays myself, the arthritis is clearly there, but he just said he needs to have further investigation. Something physically may have happened, that's made it suddenly aggressive, it could be something completely different, he didn't offer any thought over the phone. I think John always x-rays, so I guess that'll happen next week Sad
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Post by Happy Hoppers Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:10 pm

What's the weather been like your way recently....often cold & damp inflammes arthritis in people and dogs.
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Post by Jay Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:45 pm

S'funny, cos I did think of that Sooz, we did have a cold snap for a few days and it's been damp for a couple of weeks. My old dears class have been complaining too. I don't know if the messy even is tied into what's happened subsequently or not either. I hope we find out next week.

I think I need to do some deeper research into bunnythritis, can anyone reccommend anything?
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Post by Happy Hoppers Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:51 pm

No sure if I gave you this link before or not but it leads to a range of publications on arthritis: http://homepage.mac.com/mattocks/morfz/rabrefs.html#arthritis
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Post by Jay Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:02 pm

Thank-you Smile
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Post by Snowy Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:58 pm

Jay wrote:S'funny, cos I did think of that Sooz, we did have a cold snap for a few days and it's been damp for a couple of weeks. My old dears class have been complaining too. I don't know if the messy even is tied into what's happened subsequently or not either. I hope we find out next week.

I think I need to do some deeper research into bunnythritis, can anyone reccommend anything?

I give my oldie bunnies Glucosomine but I buy the pure stuff and get it direct, please don't waste your money buying the 'watered down' stuff it really is a waste of money, do you want the details?
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Post by Jay Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:49 am

I did ask about glucosomine, and was advised not to give him it yet, I'll ask again next week, thanks Theo Smile
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Post by Jay Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:26 am

I'm glad to say that we've had a good few days. Specialist advised me to up the Metacam dose to 12Kg, twice a day, and he's responded well.
Finding Bertie's lowest dosage limit was always going to be a trial and error thing, and I suspect he's been on too low for 3-4 weeks. When I see him bounding around now, I can see the difference. Because the withdrawal from 10kg - 4 has been very gradual, I haven't seen that his energy has been slightly under par.

I'm speaking to John again tomorrow, we'll decide wether he needs another examination then.
Thanks for all your good vibes and wishes, we're very grateful Love
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