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Post by Big Ears Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:08 pm

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Erin was hunched and refusing food on Monday at 7.00 am, I'd spent some time with her at 4.00 am, so know she hadn't been like that long. She's been an inpatient at Harcourt-Brown's since 10.00 am Monday.... She's only really started eating this afternoon and I have a provisional appointment to collect her tomorrow, dependant on how she does tonight.

Just feeding the buns their tea and Erin's companion, Elijah didn't rush to me, I could feel straight away he was tense - he's refusing food and looking very sorry for himself. He's a regular with these episodes, so is Erin but not as frequent as Elijah. I can't get Elijah to H-B's as they don't do out of hours on a Wednesday night so if he doesn't improve in the next hour or so ... or worsens a lot in the next hour or so, I shall be whisking him off to local vets, where he was an inpatient for a few days just 8 weeks ago. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

My buns have been plagued by bellyache/stasis episodes over the last couple of years but this year has been soo much better, I really thought I'd cracked it.

Elijah sometimes looks a bit out of sorts (but not to the extent he looks now) this time of night and then brightens up after he's done a big pile of poops around 9.00 pm - so I'm giving him a while before going to the vets as I'm cautiously optimistic that he's going to have some bowel movements and then feel better.

(Ain't it crazy how a rabbit's bowel movement, or lack of, can cause their owners so much stress).

Pooping vibes would be very much appreciated.

Edit to add: I've just spent some time with him and the penny has dropped that the horrendous moult he's got going on at the moment is probably the culprit - I did wonder if that could have been the cause of Erin's problem too.


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Post by Thumper2001 Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:47 pm

Oh no! Poor Erin and Elijah, and poor you Sad

Fingers crossed for a quick recovery for both of them.
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Post by Vince the bunny Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:51 pm

Oh dear, poor Erin and Elijah. I think this funny summer is causing my buns to have a bad moult too. Is their poo in strings/a couple joined together?
I hope Elijah does a heap of poos for you very soon. Sending poo vibes to you and keep us updated Hugs I don't know a lot about gut stasis as luckily I've never had to deal with it, but I would imagine it to be very stressful, so sending Hugs to you too Smile
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Post by Big Ears Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:01 pm

Thank you both. He's not looking miserable anymore and has eaten quite a bit of grass and dandelions enthusiastically. He hasn't pooped yet but I'm a lot less worried about him than I was when I last posted.

Thanks for the support.

Re Poops. Elijah's from earlier on look normal. Erin's on Monday were strung together but then they very often are. FHB reckons that it's because she re-eats her hard poops so the hair goes through twice, thus causing the problem.

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Post by fiver Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:03 pm

aww hope all goes well for them and you mega vibes on thier way to you all Hugs Hugs Hugs Hugs

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Post by FluffSlave Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:27 pm

Sending lots of vibes to both buns and hugs to you Hugs
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Post by KatieB Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:28 pm

Hope they are both ok Hun, sending vibes xx
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Post by Dotdot Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:32 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if its been the moult, my two have had a horrific moult this year compared to last year.
Tigger often has stringy poo too, she's a very very clean bunny when it comes to both her and Jeeves.
Hopefully with him eating he will be pooing in no time.

Poo vibes for Elijah and get better and home soon vines for Erin. Hugs for you Hugs xx
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Post by Big Ears Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:55 pm

I'm greatly relieved to announce that Elijah has pooped. Very Happy

He's back to dashing across when I enter the room and tooth purring. Love

Thank you for the vibes and hugs. My main panic is when I can't get them to H-B's because I hate being parted from them and although my last two experiences of admissions at local vets have been okay, I'd just rather they were staying at the rabbit vets, if they have to be anywhere other than with me.

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Post by Vegan_bunny Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:22 am

Glad he's doing better. Sending vibes to both of them especially Erin. My two are going through an awful moult too and I've had the stringy poos.

Just a thought but what's their daily diet? Some veg can cause gas and tummy problems, I'm sure you know this already but was just checking. Smile
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Post by gentl Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:57 am

Happy to hear everything is coming out alright! Embarassed Wink
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Post by Dotdot Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:04 am

Yay! I bet he feels 10 times lighter now.
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Post by fiver Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:06 am

Dotdot wrote:Yay! I bet he feels 10 times lighter now.
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i bet she does
glad she's pooping Love

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Post by Big Ears Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:23 pm

Update.
Unfortunately as I was preparing to leave home to collect Erin, Elijah was doing the "food refusal and bellyache thing". He had eaten his breakfast though looking back probably not as enthusiastically as usual. I took him with me to the appointment and he had a blood glucose reading of 15.1 (ie, something's not right and he needs monitoring) so he stayed at the vet's and Erin came home.

FHB showed me Erin's x-rays and said she could see something on her x-ray this time and previous ones - calcium deposits, towards the rear of her intestines, around the rectum area. She believes that they are surgical adhesions Crying or Very sad Thus creating a restriction for passing the faeces out of her body. She doesn't intend to do anything about it at the moment. I've to keep a close eye on her and if these episodes become a significant problem then surgery may be considered. I know from reading about it though that surgery on adhesions is a minefield and can make the situation worse. Sad Although I wasn't told in so many words I guess this means my beautiful Erin is more at risk of a full blockage than the average rabbit.

These surgical adhesions are likely the aftermath of her spay. I don't know enough to know if it's just bad luck and she would have been vulnerable to them or if the vet that spayed her (whilst with previous owner) could have done something to prevent them. Artie also has surgical adhesions but his are down to kidney surgery and you can't use the drug the try to prevent them (can't remember what it's called) in kidney surgerys as it's contra-indicated as it puts too much stress on the kidneys. Hearing this news make me more sure I've done the right thing booking Dinky for her spay with FHB rather than taking the cheapest option.

I've just had an update that Elijah has eaten a little but I've been advised that there will be a further message at 4.30.


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Post by FluffSlave Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:25 pm

Oh no! Sad

I'm sending lots more vibes to both bunnies and hugs again to you. Hugs
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Post by fiver Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:40 pm

oh my
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Post by Sparky Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:45 pm

Vibes for them both, and hugs for you Hugs

Although it's sad news about Erin's adhesions, at least you know about them and know to be extra vigilant with her. Here's hoping they never cause her a real problem Hugs
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Post by gentl Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:38 pm

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All Hare-Mail Squadrons are on their way filled with vibes and prayers for Erin and Eligh!

I hope they will soon be fine!
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Post by paullp Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:23 pm

Lots of vibes for you and your buns Hugs
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Post by Big Ears Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:52 pm

Very Happy Thanks everybody.

Erin is now happily settled at home and tucking, very excitedly, into a big pile of grass, dandelions and raspberry leaves.

My message about Elijah from vets was that his blood glucose level had gone down to 7.5 (in the normal range) and he was eating a little. They were not worried about him. I'm hoping he'll be home tomorrow as it was caught quickly and *hopefully* he's recovering swiftly as a result.


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Post by Vince the bunny Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:57 pm

oh no! I hope both your buns are back together again very soon and that Erin's adhesions don't cause any major problems xx
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Post by Big Ears Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:04 pm

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Erin's in pain again and refusing food.

I've rung emergency vet for advice, thankfully a vet at H-B's on duty tonight.

Vet says to give her Metacam, and if I can manage it Domperidone and Zantac. If I'm still worried later to ring back and they will re-admit her. She's an absolute treasure, I can't bear to see her like this.

Vibes would be appreciated.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:12 pm

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Post by FluffSlave Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:22 pm

Oh dear, poor Erin. Sending loads of vibes her way, and lots of hugs for you. This must be horrible. Hugs
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Post by Tuckerbunnies Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:51 am

I'm so sorry only just seen this Sad

Sending Mega Vibes for Erin hope she will be ok Bless her xxxxxxxx


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