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Post by Jay Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:19 am

We've been treating Bertie for his compaction for 3 weeks now, and I'm not as sure now that we are cracking it, or if we are looking at something different now. I'm considering a couple of options, and I'd be grateful for any imput.
The compaction was a lot smaller this time, but we haven't seen, as we did last time, anything unusual coming out of him that would show the compaction is breaking up. He is routinely very well one day and then we have the morning stasis type incident every other day.
The stasis symptoms almost like clockwork disappear at midday-1pm and he starts eating again, and by 2 you'd never know anything was wrong, exactly the same as last time. This time though he's pooing in the morning, when he's not eating. The poos are fine, last time there was nothing until after he'd eaten.

My concern is that there is something else or that this is a different thing, but I can't explain why the the majority of symptoms are the same.

Before I go back to the vet, I'd like some advice with the options for happens next, as I can't let this carry on any more.

He could have a barium X-ray. This is bad news, I don't want it, but will if it's the only option.
I could take him to the bunny specialist in Andover, and would consider doing that before and X-ray if it was worth doing?
What other options would you consider?

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Post by racheld69 Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:25 am

oh dear poor Bertie. I don't have any advice but I go and see John Chitty in Andover with Foxglove so if you want to ask me anything about him I am here!
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Post by Jay Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:26 am

racheld69 wrote:oh dear poor Bertie. I don't have any advice but I go and see John Chitty in Andover with Foxglove so if you want to ask me anything about him I am here!

Thanks Rachel, I Pm'd you about 15 mins ago Wink
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Post by Snowy Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:35 am

I would suggest a second opinion too, not because I wouldn't trust your vet but just incase another expert could throw some light on the problem, I would suggest the expert in Andover, I really hope that you get some answers Jay, I know how worried you both are and I also know how very frustrating it is to have these occurences and not know why, I'm afraid I can't be more help
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Post by Happy Hoppers Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:09 pm

I agree that I think this is something you may have to start exploring other avenues with as it is likely that at least a couple of experts will have experiences of something similar but as I've found, you tend not to hear about these cases until you go out looking for them.

You could even suggest your vets try phoning a few exotics specialists further afield just to see if they have any ideas to try.

I can't remember if I have asked this before or not but is Bertie receiving Ranitidine or Cimetidine to protec against GI ulceration? It's just that if not this could be a contributory factor to his repeated anorexia.
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Post by Jay Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:20 pm

Thanks guys, no Sooz, I've not heard that before, and din't know he could be having GI ulceration, I will ask, thank-you Smile

I've just spent the morning with Anne, she knows John Chitty very well as the do a lot of talks together and work togetther, so I'm going to get an appointment to see him next week. I hope he can find out whats up, we're both feeling really unhappy about him being unwell for so long, we need to get him fixed, thisjust isn't fair on him.

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Post by thumpersmum Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:47 pm

Oh Jay I'm sorry your struggling to get Bertie right, it's such a worry. I think getting another view is a great idea. I really hope you get some answers soon.

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Post by SarahJane Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:54 pm

its a tough one, i dont have any advice and i know your specialist is obviously a different one to the one i saw...but, Peanuts specialist helped him hugely. and it wasnt that our normal vets werent good, theyre great but i think a specialist can help wonders if the problem cant be sorted by your normal vets.

I hope Bertie will feel better soon!
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Post by NickieM Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:32 pm

I think you need to see the specialist, even just for your own peace of mind. If you had a problem that was very specialised or unusual, the best person to see would be a consultant in whatever discipline the problem came from. I am sure the same is true with animals. I hope you get to the root of the problem with Bertie's digestion and both of you get some peace of mind. Hugs
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Post by Josephine Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:04 pm

I am so sorry Jay that Bertie is still having problems. Hopefully the rabbit specialist can help sort things out and Bertie is soon back to full health.
Snuggles and nose rubs for the gorgeous Bertie. Love
Hugs to you and Paul.
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Post by Catsknickers Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:48 pm

I am so sorry to hear this Jay. I don't have any advice but just wanted to say that I hope old Berts picks up soon, as we can't have a poorly boy Sad
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Post by jan Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:45 am

nose and bunny rubs for bertie and hugs to you Hugs
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Post by Jay Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:50 pm

Thanks guys Love After a worried call to nurse Theo Bertie again, I'm afraid - u/d Back home & well Sm_rose last night, after Berts haden't voluntarily eaten all day, I stayed in the lounge all night with him and fed him every hour. He didn't like me much Sad

This morning he has pooed at least and I've been feeding him, he seems perkier but still a bit off his food. I've seen this before and I hoping he should be over the worst by the end of the day. We were all due to go to London tonight, and a friend was going to sit Bertie, but that looks like it may not happen for us all.

I was meant to see Erin today, but I had to cancel, I'm sorry Bertie again, I'm afraid - u/d Back home & well Sm_rose
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Post by Josephine Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:33 pm

Jay I am so sorry to hear that Bertie is still not eating properly. Sending him loads of eating and pooing <<<<<VIBES>>>>> and comforting <<<<<VIBES>>>>> for you. Hugs Hugs Hugs
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Post by Rosie Rabbit Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:44 pm

Jay, I'm so sorry. Sad It must be such a worry for you that Berts is just not right. Sad It's very stressful for you all.

I really really hope you get to the bottom of this soon and I'm thinking of you all. Sending lots of vibes xxx
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Post by Jay Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:57 pm

Thanks for the vibes, you wouldn't know anything had happened now, he's binkying about and enjoying his herbs etc. I hope it stays like this tomorrow. Thanks xx
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Post by thumpersmum Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:13 pm

Glad he's on the mend. I really hope you are able to get some answers soon Jay.

Lots of noserubs to Bertie from us here

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Post by coco Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:40 am

hope he continues to improve Jay, poor little lad seems to have it all lately Crying or Very sad. Hope you can soon find the cause of the problem soon! both of you take care!
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Post by Sixer Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:01 am

I hope Bertie is having a good day today.

I am sure you are doing the right thing in approaching a bunny specialist.

It must be so stressful for you so am sending loads of hugs to you and Paul, and of course nose rubs for Bertie xxx
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Post by Jay Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:01 pm

Thanks so much everyone, I'm so sorry I keep having to come back with this, and your support is really lovely and much apprecited Smile

I'm ringing John in the morning to see if we can get an appt tomorrow. I've discussed it with Paul and he thinks this is the best course of action too. He really worries about him so much Sad

I'll keep you posted Love
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Post by Happy Hoppers Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:18 pm

I know how bloody traumatic it can be too look after a bunny that acts like this, I only had Caspian for 8 weeks but he was in and out of stasis the entire time and it was so wearing as they just need your constant care and you darn't leave them for long.

I hope John Chitty can shead some light on things for you. Hugs
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Post by Jay Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:42 am

Thanks Sooz, it is very wearing, but he's seeing John tomorrow at 5.40, so I hope we get to the bottom of it Smile
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Post by Catsknickers Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:24 pm

Good luck tonight Jay x
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Post by Happy Hoppers Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:47 pm

Best of Luck for this evening. x
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Post by Rice Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:30 pm

Good luck Jay xx
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