Bertie again, I'm afraid - u/d Back home & well

Am thinking of you and Bertie xx

good luck

vibes for you and berts x

Any news?

Thanks guys, but it's tomorrow, I'll keep your wishes til then

Loads of

Am still thinking of you and Bertie, how is he today?

Thanks V, he's really well today, wasnt' yesterday, probably won't be tomorrow, as it has been resolutely every other day for the last 3 weeks. It'll be good for John to see him at his worst, but not good for the journey

oooh good luck tomorrow. don't forget to say hi from Foxglove and me! will be thinking of you. there are nice fish in the waiting room for Bertie to look at while he's waiting.

Poor Bertie, all our bunnies get so stressed in the car, and then more so sat in the waiting room at the vets. I then get stressed for them - it is just awful.

Will be sending loys of calming vibes your way xx

Sorry to hear Bertie isn't well, hope the rabbit expert can pin point whats happening and put your mind at rest!
Nose rubs to Bertie and lots of good thoughts to you!
Emma x

Sending loads of good luck for Berties appointment, here's hoping that John can shed some light on Bertie and his problems, hope it all goes well and I will be thinking of you

Our boy's in Andover, it's really strange without him

John gave him a good groping over, asked us lots of questions, then said that he needs to discover a point of pain. He's not convinced about the compaction, thinks it's more likely to be as a result of something else.
He's having a full X-ray tomorrow I'm afraid. I don't feel good about it, but he said the pain could, for example, be in his knees, or lower back, and a scan wouldn't show this up, and that the only option was the x-ray.

I'd prefer that it's him looking at the X-ray result than our vet, so i guess it's a good thing. He's a really nice guy, very forthright, and confident. He was very impressed with the daily pooh samples I'd been collecting I'm going to get a name for myself
He needs to get bertie's notes from our vet and then once its' done he'll call us to let us know what he's found.
All being well we can have him back tomorrow. I'm so gutted he's got to go under anaesthetic

oh poor bertie!

Ill be thinking of the brave little guy tomorrow. Its horrible when they have to stay over at the vet isnt it

I hope they can find out whats up with him after all this!

sending vibes for tomorrow x

It sounds like John will be very thorough with him. I so hope this gives you some answers or at least eliminates some possibilities.

I'm sure he'll be fine, the GA risk is low and he is in very capable hands.

Will be thinking of you without your boy x

Big hugs for Bertie Hope the vet finds out what is wrong with your little guy xx

Hugs for bertie and you

As Sooz says, Bertie is in very capable hands and hopefully he won't have to be too long under anaesthetic. I hope that the Xray can get to the bottom of Bertie's tummy problems.

Loads of hugs, Jay. Will be thinking of you and Bertie tomorrow xx

Sounds like he is in excellent hands, Jay. Hoping he is a well bunny soon. Nose rubs to him when he comes home.

Blimey Sending a million vibes for your little lad - This vet sounds like he knows his stuff though, which is the key to every recovery! Loads of love xx

Hi Jay. From first hand experience am sure Bertie is in the best hands and John will look at all options and hopefully identify and fix the problem. He says loads of information doesn't he - you almost want a dictaphone so you can go home and listen to all the stuff he said again! I remember a lady on another forum who had been told her rabbit had stasis and all sorts and then went to specialist (might have even been John) and found out it had a broken pelvis and had had it for months. keep us posted - sending lots of vibes for Berts.

I'm taking a dictaphone when we collect him, I'd already thught about it

Thanks Rachel, I do feel reassured

Hi Jay x

Will be so pleased for you when you get Bertie home x
Hope he has been a big brave bunny x and hope his daddy's have been ultra big and strong too x
Lets hope we get some answers and get our bouncie Bertie back x

Huggles x

Thanks all so much for your support and help, it's invaluable and very reassuring

I've had a call from John, Bertie is still under, but is still alive (pheww!), and it seems he has some arthritis on his lower spine. First priority is to get him pain free, anmd I'm to give him 10x the amount of Metacam he'd normally have for 3 days. Then I call John again. I'm sure we'll have more info later when we collect him but that was the gist of the phone call.

Interestingly his GI looked fine, but he could see some tissue inflamation from the compaction as was. It is likely that the original compaction was caused by the pain, once that went, the pain slowly took over again, and brought him to this point. Poor guy

I'm off to do some research, any tips for arthritis would be very helpful in the meantime I'll let you know what happens later x

That would make perfect sense, much in the way I was indicating that if he had ulceration as a result of the stasis episodes it would be contributory to him developing further stasis issues, the arthritis pain would also be making him miserable and the impaction compunding the issues.

I am so pleased you finally have a probable answer, it just goes to show how easy it is to become obsessed with the symptoms rather than the cause (a case of not seeing the wood for the trees).

Not too sure on it's useage in bunnies but perhaps ask John about Glucosamine supplements, I am pretty sure a couple of ladies dealing with elderly & special needs bunnies have told me they use this for them.