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Post by jolovesbunnies Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:29 pm

Top up vibes here too love.

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Post by c.bolduan Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:08 pm

Update 20.02
I'm schocked.pale
I have just spoken to the vet at the Animla hospital.
After seeing Bertie and checking him through it was decided that an x ray wasn't first choice.
They performed a CT instead as it only required a mild sedation.
They had a phone call from the radiographers back asking,
Did you put a needle in this bunnies chest?
Answer no, we don't do such things
Bertie has got a Pneumothorax:scratch:Suspect
Likely caused by an ongoing chest infection.
Yes he will stay there overnight on iv fluids, different antibiotics( thank god for that no more Baytrill:thumb:) and ranitidine as well as a course of panecur.
I had started to write this when they phoned again to say he is still drowsy but eating little bits. So I went back for a visit and I'm pleased to say the plan is if he continues to recover well he may be able to come home tommorow:dance:LoveVery Happy
I met the vet on duty tonight and we discussed everything. She will call me at any time if there is a change in his condition. Otherwise another set of blood in the morning an update phone call to me and I hope and wish to pick him up by lunchtime.
What can I say. I apologised for not recognising something severe like this. But unless the bunny gets noisy breathing there s nothing to alert hoomins of such.

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Post by c.bolduan Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:10 pm

Thumper2001 wrote:How old is he, Claudia?

Thumper washed her face like that a lot when she was an old lady.
Nearly five! albino

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Post by c.bolduan Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:12 pm

marleyNfriends wrote:Sending more vibes. Hows he doing? What are his poops like, just out of interest. xx
Poos were beuatiful.
I saw some earlier at the clinic a littler smaller than usual but producing plenty of them.

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Post by Thumper2001 Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:23 pm

Keeping everything crossed for Bertie.

c.bolduan wrote:
Thumper2001 wrote:How old is he, Claudia?

Thumper washed her face like that a lot when she was an old lady.
Nearly five! albino
Aw just a young thing then! Perhaps he just didn't have the energy.
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Post by c.bolduan Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:34 pm

Thumper2001 wrote:Keeping everything crossed for Bertie.

c.bolduan wrote:
Thumper2001 wrote:How old is he, Claudia?

Thumper washed her face like that a lot when she was an old lady.
Nearly five! albino
Aw just a young thing then! Perhaps he just didn't have the energy.
I'm not slightly surprised now knowing about his chest. A pneumothorax is very! Painful and leaves you short of breath. Blood carries oxygen so that explained the low red blood cell in test. This poor fellow must have suffered and I didn't realise. With low oxygen levels one gets fatigued and weak. It just all makes sense now.

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Post by Big Ears Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:39 pm

c.bolduan wrote:
Thumper2001 wrote:Keeping everything crossed for Bertie.

c.bolduan wrote:
Thumper2001 wrote:How old is he, Claudia?

Thumper washed her face like that a lot when she was an old lady.
Nearly five! albino
Aw just a young thing then! Perhaps he just didn't have the energy.
I'm not slightly surprised now knowing about his chest. A pneumothorax is very! Painful and leaves you short of breath. Blood carries oxygen so that explained the low red blood cell in test. This poor fellow must have suffered and I didn't realise. With low oxygen levels one gets fatigued and weak. It just all makes sense now.

Poor, poor bunny. Can they say what the prognosis is? I'm hoping that now they've found it and know how to treat it that the outcome is likely to be good?

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Post by The Snowman Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:41 pm

Hope Bertie is on the mend soon
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Post by c.bolduan Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:47 pm

We didn't talk about the prognosis yet as we at waiting for the full report of the CT. I know in hoomins is likely to leave lesions or scar tissue and if this is the case I guess nebulising will be a regular treatment. They are doing it now with F10 so I better get a stock in.
I have phone our vet to inform them and make sure they are happy to treat him if needed and they are fine with this. I dupes cussed the option if he would deteriorate and suffer to pts at home rather then another travel to the surgery and they agreed to this.
When mentioning it to the vet at the hospital she said, I don't think this is an issue at the moment.

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Post by Sixer Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:54 pm

More top up vibes on there way for Bertie. I hope the new abx start to take effect very soon xx
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Post by bunny boy Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:29 pm

Tons of vibes for Bertie, fingers & toes crossed for a speady recovery, How are you holding up? Sending vibes your way too hugs Judy
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Post by BugsBunny Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:43 am

Mega top up vibes for Bertie hun. I hope he recovers fast. Fingers and paws crossed here.

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Post by KatieB Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:03 am

Oh goodness - poor little chap.

Don't feelbad Claudia you could not possibly have known what was wrong with the little chap, he is such a lucky boy to have you x

Sending a vine top up for him xx
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Post by marleyNfriends Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:20 am

c.bolduan wrote:
marleyNfriends wrote:Sending more vibes. Hows he doing? What are his poops like, just out of interest. xx
Poos were beuatiful.
I saw some earlier at the clinic a littler smaller than usual but producing plenty of them.

Well that's good, at least we know he's not in stasis. Have they had to do anything to release the pressure in his chest? Poor Bertie, BUT at least you have answers now, that must be a huge relief. Fingers crossed he continues to improve and is back to his usual self soon. Sending more vibes. xxx
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Post by c.bolduan Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:42 pm

Thanks everyone for all the thoughts and vibes they have worked wonders.
Bertie(and Bubbles) are back home.Very Happy
He responded to the iv fluid, and new treatment very well and they were happy for him to come home and continue treatment here.
I'm impressed by they way this was dealt with. 
No surgery was done as we are still awaiting the detailed report from the CT. but he seems to have responded to the new antibiotics and metacam in easement to 1ml twice a day. F10 nebulisers three times a day on top and tell you what he is sitting still on my lap for 45 minutes to receive it via the children mask.
Good boy!Thumbs UpLove
I'm going to prepare dinner now. We have an appointment at our vet on Monday for follow up and Swindon will be in touch as soon as the results are back. They have taken bloods today to see whether there is change, improvement.
Love this bunny as he is gentle and patient. Wouldn't fancy to try this with Bubbles.
To all other poorly bunnies we send all vibes available. And of course we will keep you posted!

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Post by jolovesbunnies Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:51 pm

I am very glad to hear that he is responding to treatment and is back home with you love, I agree, he s a lucky little man to have such a loving mum. Hugs

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Post by Sixer Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:14 pm

Wonderful news that Bertie is back home and responding well to treatment. Am sending more vibes that he continues to improve. What a good bunny he is with his treatment too. I hope you are feeling more positive Claudia Hugs Hugs Hugs Hugs Hugs
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Post by BugsBunny Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:26 pm

cheers cheers Happy Dance Happy Dance Fantastic news hun.
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Post by marleyNfriends Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:51 am

That's fab news. Bless him. Give him nose rubs from me.
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Post by The Snowman Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:25 pm

Glad Bertie is doing well and is home
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Post by FluffSlave Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:28 pm

I'm so pleased to read that Bertie is home and doing well Very Happy

Sending lots of top-up vibes and hugs to you all Hugs
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Post by jolovesbunnies Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:08 pm

I thought I felt something nice hun, it must be those return vibes. This is great news, I am so very pleased to hear it. nose rubs from Auntie Jo.

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Post by KatieB Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:19 pm

Oh this is such good news! I'm so glad he is home, bless him. It sounds like you have a good treatment plan and Im sure this means he will be as good as new.

Vibe top up for you both x x x
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Post by Guest Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:23 pm

Glad to hear he's doing well. Fingers crossed he'll keep it up.

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Post by c.bolduan Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:13 pm

Thanks for all the vibes.
He had a little dip this afternoon. Eating is the issue, only taking very little of his greens and no pellets at all this morning. I moistened them and he had 3. 
Then the routine of medicines and nebuliser. Metacam uped it 1 ml twice daily. This afternoon I found him hunched in the corner teeth grinding. Poos are getting smaller! Alert! Phoned the vet. Give metrocloperamide on top of the Ranitidine continue nebulising. No further increase in metacam only option to start tramadol which is likely to make him more sleepy and constipated.
So we decided to start syringe feeding him. Due to follow up with our vet in the morning. Im worried that he is in pain we need our thinking caps on. Bless him he is still my Mr. handsome.
I'm going up now for evening treatment.

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